Birdshot QV LINKS Tourney - Jan 3, 2009

[JDiscraft]

I saw somewhere that a tourney was going to be held by Birdshot on January 3rd at Quail Valley. Is that going to happen?

[ThePatrick]

It's pending sanctioning right now. It'll be 36 holes on the Links.

[bmugwump]

Yes, it will be the first tournament of the '09 Championship Series....Chuck has purchased bag-tags for The Links & they will be distributed after the two rounds. I think the cost for tags will be $3.00 on tournament day...then $5.00 after that. Chuck would like to get tags for all of the courses in the series, but I'm not sure it will be affordable. We'll see.

[ERicJ]

...bag-tags for The Links & they will be distributed after the two rounds.What's the protocol for distributing bag tags at a tourney? Is it strictly by division or by raw score?

I.e. Does last place in MA1 get a higher tag than first place in MA2? What about age divisions? -or- does a 108 in MA2 get a higher tag than 109 in MPO?

Inquiring minds want to know.

ERic

[ThePatrick]

Typically it's irregardless of division, only score. What about ties/playoffs though....I am inquiring as well

[bmugwump]

Should be by score....if there are ties (which wouldn't surprise me) I guess we'll have to play 'em off (more water sports...yay!)...

[TBender]

By score....unless some divisions play from different tees.

Then the scores aren't comparable.

[bmugwump]

I'm pretty sure we'll all be playing from the same tees...we'll be playing The Lil' Links though....not The Largo! In my opinion, I think everyone should always play from the same tees anyway....if not, you can't get a true round rating.

[ERicJ]

In my opinion, I think everyone should always play from the same tees anyway....if not, you can't get a true round rating.I guess that depends on what you mean by "true". :confused:

[ERicJ]

FYI from the PDGA website (http://www.pdgastore.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=009&DEPT=1067409406&BACK=A0001A1) related to 2009 memberships:

Important information you need to know when joining or renewing with the PDGA…

The PDGA membership and tour year runs January 1st - December 31st.

Memberships are processed daily, and uploaded to www.pdga.com (http://www.pdga.com/) in weekly batches. If your membership is received before the close of business on MON, you will be listed as current on FRI at www.pdga.com (http://www.pdga.com/) (on the Membership (http://www.pdga.com/member-search) page). Memberships received after the close of business MON will be processed with the following weeks batch.So that means to be current on FRI Jan 2, 2009 you need to get your membership/renewal in before close of business on MON Dec 29, 2008. That's assuming no additional holiday delays too.

Also, a couple more tips:


If you are a current dues paid HFDS member you can get a $5 discount on your PDGA membership via the affiliate club program (http://www.pdgastore.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=009&DEPT=1165880523).
If you sign up multiple family members, i.e. at the same mailing address, and only want one copy of the magazine you can get a $5 discount through the family membership program.

ERic

[bmugwump]

Got my renewal in the mail today! ERic's right....don't wait much longer to be current for the first of the year....get those renewals in ASAP!

[scoot_er]

I'm pretty sure we'll all be playing from the same tees...we'll be playing The Lil' Links though....not The Largo! In my opinion, I think everyone should always play from the same tees anyway....if not, you can't get a true round rating.


As long as there are 6 propagators playing the course the round will be rated. The TD just has to put them in separately.

[ERicJ]

As long as there are 6 propagators ...
Only need five.

In 2008 Chuck Kennedy wrote (http://discussion.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Board=Ratings%20&%20Skill-based%20Competition&Number=811400&Main=811394&#Post811400):
Calculating a rating for a round is based on using the scores of at least 5 players whose rating is based on at least 8 rounds and is over 799. They are called propagators, props, or gators. It's not uncommon for a Rec division alone to not have enough props to calculate ratings. TDs hopefully look at the numbers and make sure that more than just the Rec division plays a certain layout so there's a better chance of having at least 5 props.

[TBender]

Are there going to be day-of signups? If so (or even if not), you should also be able to renew at the event.

(Just some friendly customer service advice for a 1st of the year event...)

FYI from the PDGA website (http://www.pdgastore.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=009&DEPT=1067409406&BACK=A0001A1) related to 2009 memberships:

So that means to be current on FRI Jan 2, 2009 you need to get your membership/renewal in before close of business on MON Dec 29, 2008. That's assuming no additional holiday delays too.

Also, a couple more tips:


If you are a current dues paid HFDS member you can get a $5 discount on your PDGA membership via the affiliate club program (http://www.pdgastore.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=009&DEPT=1165880523).
If you sign up multiple family members, i.e. at the same mailing address, and only want one copy of the magazine you can get a $5 discount through the family membership program.
ERic

[bmugwump]

We're still trying to avoid day-of registration, but we almost always do have PDGA registration forms at every tourney for those who want to join up. And I'm pretty sure PDGA allows us to not charge a new player the extra $10 for being non-PDGA if that player registers with us & we collect & send in their money with the TD report.

[TBender]

Absolutely. If you sign up for membership at the event, then you're not charged the $10.

In Birdshot's case (with no day-of tourney signups), that would mean those who did pay the $10 during registration would get to count that money towards paying their membership fee at the event.

[ERicJ]

Are there going to be day-of signups? If so (or even if not), you should also be able to renew at the event.
Tony, do the on-site signup forms allow you to get the HFDS affiliate club discount? I know on the PDGA website or if you call it in, it is two different forms for regular membership vs. affiliate club.

[ThePatrick]

speaking of which... where is the info on HFDS memberships....

[ERicJ]

speaking of which... where is the info on HFDS memberships....
I've previously informed Larry that there isn't anything on the current HFDS site about memberships.

You can still view the old site's membership info page here:
http://www.hfds.org/html/join_hfds.html

But the prices have changed.

Still need Larry to update the new site with the new numbers.

ERic

[ThePatrick]

Yeah...maybe next first tuesday.

[djxionic]

Concerning HFDS membership...Where do the dues go and what are the advantages?

[ERicJ]

Concerning HFDS membership...Where do the dues go and what are the advantages?
See the membership page:
http://www.hfds.org/html/join_hfds.html

[DPdiscer]

Birdshot had a lot of players show up as not current at our January tournament at King Quail. If you sign up right before the tournament, bring your receipt because PDGA does not have time to get you into the system so that you show up as current. If you do not have the receipt with you we will charge you the $10, check on it later, and if you show up as being current the day of the tournament we will refund the $10. I was under the impression that Missouri City bought the golf courses from Quail Valley so I called the tournament "The Watering Holes at Missouri City Links" I am looking to play the Winter Link Series Monday Dec 22nd at anytime that 2 postmen can play with me since I have to be over there anyway to evaluate the course for the tournament.

[tarazarr]

I'm not seeing a link in this thread for the new site to sign up for this tourney.

Can someone post it?

Thanks,

[bmugwump]

The sanctioning agreement has been submitted to PDGA...they just don't have it posted yet. Once they do, there should be an icon next to the event on the PDGA tour schedule link on their website. Of course, you can always download a registration form on our website & mail me a check. Chuck hasn't changed the form yet (still has Bass) but he'll do it soon...the only thing different for this one is the Open fees are going up & there will be a mandatory bag-tag fee of $3.00.

[scoot_er]

My guess is 200+ lost discs!


This is not a beginner friendly course and not one I would play casually because of all the water.

I may go out just to watch all the splashdowns if my girl lets me.

[scoot_er]

The sanctioning agreement has been submitted to PDGA...they just don't have it posted yet. Once they do, there should be an icon next to the event on the PDGA tour schedule link on their website. Of course, you can always download a registration form on our website & mail me a check. Chuck hasn't changed the form yet (still has Bass) but he'll do it soon...the only thing different for this one is the Open fees are going up & there will be a mandatory bag-tag fee of $3.00.



If the Pro fees are going up are you still taking money out based on percentages? If so it would be nice if everyone hads to pay equal fees to you guys instead of the uper divisions paying twice as much.

[bmugwump]

My guess is 200+ lost discs!


This is not a beginner friendly course and not one I would play casually because of all the water.

I may go out just to watch all the splashdowns if my girl lets me.
You never know with this course...I was dreading it at States and it ended up being my best round (only got in the water twice that day!). Then there have been the OTHER times! Hell, I played the Largo with Neal a few weeks ago & threw in six discs...and that was just one round (LOL)!

[discmagnet]

Patrick and I played the Largo yesterday and it was...(well, not good). We lost 11 discs between the 2 of us after recovering 2. Rain and wind. We did have fun though. Thanks Rob!!!

[ERicJ]

Yesterday, the wind for the first half of the course was brutal. I sunk five myself. Worst round on the Largo yet for me (79). C.J. on the other hand was trying to lose his driver and it took him 16 holes before he finally did it!

ERic

[DPdiscer]

About the bag tags. The $3 is included in the entry fee. $5 after the tournament. If there is a tie, then most birdies scored. If tie again, most birdies second round. Tie again, higher PDGA rating. If the tournament is not posted tomorrow, I will send an email reminder. I better get a second dragon in my bag.

[DPdiscer]

deductions are done by the number of players. If there are 10 players in a division and 60 total players, then that division pays 17% of the deductions. All the links are working on our website for this tournament as far as I know. I need to check it from a different computer though. This course is Bad to the Bone.:mad:

[DGJesús]

"Bad to the bone..."
Are you wearing bell bottoms and typing by the light of your lava lamp?

I had a great time in '08 and looking forward to '09. I had to retire my old hat after the last round at Bass this past weekend. I had to use it more than once to cover Tracy while she pee'd and I just don't think I want to wear it anymore. I think she splashed a couple of times and sneezed to cover the sound. But we're starting a new year, might as well start it with a new/used hat.

[Suemac]

Randy,

We can always count on you for such colorful commentary. Next time you see me, ask me to give you a shirt I found that is perfect for you...


thinklikeadog.com :p


The first thing I thought of when I found it at Goodwill...........YOU!


;)

[derek]

why are so many discs going into the water on this course?

[TracyP)]

Your so full of yourself DG!

As far as the disc going into the water at the links, Have you ever played there? Thats all there is around there is water. Check it out sometime.

[bmugwump]

Yes, 15 holes at The Links involve water in some way or another....bring your best game.

[ERicJ]

why are so many discs going into the water on this course?This past Sunday was abnormal with all the wind & some rain. But in general players are greedy and want birdies, that entices them to challenge the water hazards.

[derek]

i see. who designed it?

[Suemac]

I think that Neal Dambra is the design demon on this one.

A case of "risk-reward"....after you lose a few, you learn to trust what you KNOW your skills to be, not what you hope them to be. :o

[ERicJ]

i see. who designed it?
I believe Lil' LINKS was Neal and Wilcheck. Largo was Neal and me.

ERic

[mocityirish]

If you'll wouldnt mind, I would like to tag along. I still haven't broken my cherry on that course. Shame too seeing as I live down the street from it.

What time were you thinking? Schools out, time to play!

I am looking to play the Winter Link Series Monday Dec 22nd at anytime that 2 postmen can play with me since I have to be over there anyway to evaluate the course for the tournament.

[bmugwump]

PDGA still doesn't have this tourney on their schedule yet, but I assure you they have accepted our sanctioning fee & the tournament is on. We have a few mail-in/in-person sign-ups already...so you can always do that. Hopefully PDGA will get the event posted soon, and since everyone always waits until the last minute anyway that will give them some time to get it on the schedule. Have a very merry merry everybody!!!

[scoot_er]

I believe Lil' LINKS was Neal and Wilcheck. Largo was Neal and me.

ERic


So now you are a course designer?

[ERicJ]

So now you are a course designer?
I wear many hats.

[Jake Walsdorf]

PDGA still doesn't have this tourney on their schedule yet, but I assure you they have accepted our sanctioning fee & the tournament is on. We have a few mail-in/in-person sign-ups already...so you can always do that. Hopefully PDGA will get the event posted soon, and since everyone always waits until the last minute anyway that will give them some time to get it on the schedule. Have a very merry merry everybody!!!

You know you can always count on the fellows from Brooks to hand you some last minute entrys...:D

[DPdiscer]

The registration list is now on the PDGA tour schedule. I am waiting on Breiner Enterprises to confirm my application for online registration. I hope to have it available by Monday.

[bmugwump]

Talked with Chuck last night about online registration through PDGA (and after I bragged about them after Bass Doubles!) and he said if it wasn't up by today we would have no choice but to allow same day sign-ups for the tournament Saturday. Of course, if you want to make it easier on us (and ultimately yourselves) you can get your registration in the mail (I would suggest today since Thursday's a holiday) or call me at 832-659-8449 and I give you info on faxing me your registration form. We don't really expect a huge crowd for this one (a lot of people would rather chew their own arms off rather than play The Links) so if we end up having mostly same-day registrations it hopefully won't take too long to get everything together for cards in the morning & payout in the afternoon. Come on out & play this course though...I know a lot of people who say it's their favorite course in the Houston area (they're a little insane but entitled to their opinion!)...and remember we are playing the Lil' Links and NOT the much more difficult Largo course.

[scoot_er]

At least the only thing you have to worry about is water! I mean there aren't many trees or anything and the H20 is the only thing that makes it tough.


Just bring your dragons or Quest discs.

[scoot_er]

I'm already looking at the Epic battle to occur in Adv GM and must say I like Billy's chances. Every time Chuck wins it seems like he only receives 3 PDGA points.

He does have more tournaments at 11 then all but 2 of the 50 TX GMs but he is 44th in Points and will likely not get a 09' worlds invite.

Maybe he needs to play with other players more often?

[DPdiscer]

Still no online registration. The following schedule will be used:
7:30 - 8:30 Registration
9:00 - Players meeting
9:30 - Tee off
I played 3 rounds on the Lil Links and 1 round on the Largo this past weekend to qualify for the Winter Links Finale and I must say that I got used to playing with lots of water around. Just know your capibilities and throw a Dragon for a driver and a Hydra for a midrange and putter.:rolleyes: I always say that players have discs in their closet that they are never going to throw. So throw them at the Links. Is there any other disc golf course in the world with this much water? Its not that I am worried about getting enough points to get invited to Worlds, its having enough money to play in worlds. Probably looking at around $500 - $1000 for worlds.

[DGJesús]

He does have more tournaments at 11 then all but 2 of the 50 TX GMs but he is 44th in Points and will likely not get a 09' worlds invite.

Maybe he needs to play with other players more often?


NO WORLD INVITE? Chuck, why not just end it all, man? We love you and we hate to see you suffer that way. No world invite? That's like not having enough marshmallows in your hot chocolate. Like when you had your heart set on an even 2 dozen but three hit the floor and although you claim one didn't hit the kitty litter box, you know it did but you put it back in the chocolate anyway and even with the added sprinkles, it still isn't 24 marshmallows. I know that feeling but take it from a survivor, you can get this monkey off of your back . . . maybe he'll go to college.

I'm feeling your pain but we're going to get you through this. At the Scooter Invitational in early '09 if the the rumor are true, I'm going to have a CTP to benefit No World Invitis and you can be the poster boy.

I think I'm going to cry . . . :(

[Suemac]

Keeping my fingers crossed, and hope to attend this one. Who knows......I could play GM with Billy and Chuck. You never know. LOL

[Suemac]

NO WORLD INVITE? Chuck, why not just end it all, man? We love you and we hate to see you suffer that way. No world invite? That's like not having enough marshmallows in your hot chocolate. Like when you had your heart set on an even 2 dozen but three hit the floor and although you claim one didn't hit the kitty litter box, you know it did but you put it back in the chocolate anyway and even with the added sprinkles, it still isn't 24 marshmallows. I know that feeling but take it from a survivor, you can get this monkey off of your back . . . maybe he'll go to college.

I'm feeling your pain but we're going to get you through this. At the Scooter Invitational in early '09 if the the rumor are true, I'm going to have a CTP to benefit No World Invitis and you can be the poster boy.

I think I'm going to cry . . . :(

Oh, boo hoo! DGJ....remember, I got a shirt for you. "thinklikeadog.com" I keep it in my trunk, and it's just waiting for its rightful owner, the hound dog that you are.

Obviously, Scoot_er must have put his little lady on a plane back to Cali. Since there wasn't a dog around, he just kicked the first think he saw.....Chuck. Scoot, pick on someone with skills more in your range. Where's Dixon when you need him. :D

[DPdiscer]

I truly wonder who has lost the most discs at the Links. I would bet the number would be over 30. The least number of discs lost? Gotta have at least 5 rounds to qualify. I'll put my number in the hat. 2. Beat that:mad: Lets not forget most discs recovered. Tight competition between Mike Brockmyre and Neal Dambra. I bet that number is close to 50.

[mocityirish]

...I know a lot of people who say it's their favorite course in the Houston area (they're a little insane but entitled to their opinion!)...and remember we are playing the Lil' Links and NOT the much more difficult Largo course.

It is quickly becoming my favorite course. Not sure what took me so long to play it. In two rounds have lost 2 and recovered 2. :confused:

[ERicJ]

I truly wonder who has lost the most discs at the Links. I would bet the number would be over 30.

Could be me. I mostly learned to play on that course.

47 rounds logged, 808 holes, 2845 shots.

61 discs thrown in the water that stayed in for at least a day.

17 of them have come back, leaving 44 still resting at the bottom (or recovered and "stolen").

Jessica has eight sunk, which on the following link are listed as mine:
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=2576&mode=ld

ERic

[DPdiscer]

Yeah, lost would be the ones that you have not gotten back yet. 44 is pretty high. I hope most of them were won, or given to you, not bought. But hey, you probably still have a nice reserve in your closet.

[Suemac]

I lost five the friday of States last year during doubles. They were all good discs, and none have returned. all had names and I believe someone went pirating, as no one who lost discs that afternoon in the rain got theirs back either.

Eric, wow, to know all that information about your rounds. :eek:

[ERicJ]

Eric, wow, to know all that information about your rounds. :eek:

All on the DGCR Scorebook! :)
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/scorebook.php?mid=519

ERic

[ERicJ]

I hope most of them were won, or given to you, not bought.

Most of my stuff comes cheap on Ebay...

[tarazarr]

All on the DGCR Scorebook! :)
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/scorebook.php?mid=519

ERic

Sometimes I have a hard time just remembering what my score was two holes back (if I forgot to write it down). I think it's very cool that your that diligent in logging every round and the events within each round EricJ :cool: good job bro

[tarazarr]

I lost five the friday of States last year during doubles. They were all good discs, and none have returned. all had names and I believe someone went pirating, as no one who lost discs that afternoon in the rain got theirs back either.



Sue I think I saw them at the new school at Moffit being used as plates for
The babies who's bellies will be full with the free breakfast/lunch programs at the new school. :D

So they actually are doing some good for someone:D

[tarazarr]

Still no online registration. The following schedule will be used:
7:30 - 8:30 Registration
9:00 - Players meeting
9:30 - Tee off
.

Chuck if this means your going to do "Day of" sign-ups...I'll step up to help you guys out at 0730....:)

[Suemac]

Sue I think I saw them at the new school at Moffit being used as plates for
The babies who's bellies will be full with the free breakfast/lunch programs at the new school. :D

So they actually are doing some good for someone:D


Yep, we only lost three to drowning when we threw them in and told them not to come out without a disc. LOL ;) :p

[scoot_er]

Heard a rumor Geoff Bennett may want to attend and was just wondering if he will have someone to play with. I may come on out if he comes but not to just play against him and Dixon as that would mean 1000+ golf to cash and I usually leave that pressure for A-tiers.

[scoot_er]

Oh, boo hoo! DGJ....remember, I got a shirt for you. "thinklikeadog.com" I keep it in my trunk, and it's just waiting for its rightful owner, the hound dog that you are.

Obviously, Scoot_er must have put his little lady on a plane back to Cali. Since there wasn't a dog around, he just kicked the first think he saw.....Chuck. Scoot, pick on someone with skills more in your range. Where's Dixon when you need him. :D



Sorry Sue it just worked with the why are there so many one person divisions thing I have been asking. Do you really win or did you get last? I wonder if they get a Gold medal?

[DPdiscer]

Thanks Tarazarr! We'll have you kill the watersnake on #4. Just grab him by the tail and snap his head off like you are releasing a disc. We'll think of something for you to do. We appreciate the offer.

[ERicJ]

Thanks Tarazarr! We'll have you kill the watersnake on #4. Just grab him by the tail and snap his head off like you are releasing a disc. We'll think of something for you to do. We appreciate the offer.
If you mean this guy (http://picasaweb.google.com/ericjubin/TheLINKSAtQuailValleyDGC), then he's been spotted in the tree by basket #5.

The pics aren't that great but a couple experts at the Zoo have said it looks like a:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerodia_rhombifer
http://biology.uta.edu/herpetology/watersnakes.htm

This wikipedia quote is pretty much word-for-word what happened on my encounter: "They are frequently found basking on these branches over water, and when approached, they will quickly drop into the water and swim away."

ERic

[Suemac]

So, he's a snake charmer? :eek:

Do the snakes fall into a trance when you whale on your get-tar?? :p

Been listening to Joe Bonamassa today, wow, what an artist.

[DPdiscer]

I would like to thank ERic and Neal for putting in a lot of bricks at the Links. Here a brick, there a brick, everywhere a brick brick. You got the blues, reds, whites, yellows, and red/yellows. Those whites are pretty wicked on the Largo.:(

[bmugwump]

There's a 40% chance of rain Saturday, so you might want to bring an umbrella....we will have day-of registration this time because of computer problems, so come early. Sign-up & check-in between 7:30 & 8:30....hopefully players meeting by 9:00 & tee off around 9:30. See you next year!

[Throw Innova]

don't let the links scare you. it is relatively easy to score par if that is all you are going for. you only get into trouble if you are trying to get birdies. that is when the water comes into play. play smart and your score will be fine.

[ERicJ]

But does "fine" win? ;)

[Throw Innova]

if you are scared of any course you will not win. might as well score good. this is the one of the biggest misconceptions with DG, i think. you play to do well, not necessarily to win. there are very few folks that win their division. when people wait to move up a division because they say "i can't win that new division" it is an indicator that something is wrong.

[DNez2001]

remember as a C-tier, all have to be current 2009 PDGA members, and non-members pay the $10 weekend fee. If you haven't renewed, please do so before the event and save these guys the hassle of dealing with it!

[bmugwump]

Thanks, Nez! Yes, please make sure you are current & save that extra $10...if you've just recently joined or renewed in the past couple of weeks, please bring a printout of your receipt (if you signed up online). If you signed up at somebody's tournament, the TD should have given you a temporary card. Also, since we are doing walk-ups tomorrow...if you can, please bring small bills to pay for your registration. We can use all the change we can get for payout later in the day. Come on out early for sign-up & check-in between 7:30 & 8:30....we'll have to cut-off registration no later than 8:30 in order to get the cards & hole assigments together. See everyone in the morning!!!

[bmugwump]

One more thing....if any of you are playing in the WLS Series here at the Links, you can pay Neal tomorrow & the two rounds will go towards that series (which I think is pretty cool of them to do). Don't try to pay Birdshot though...you need to get together with Neal or one of the Postmen. You don't know what a Postman is? Ask Neal.....

[Suemac]

remember as a C-tier, all have to be current 2009 PDGA members, and non-members pay the $10 weekend fee. If you haven't renewed, please do so before the event and save these guys the hassle of dealing with it!


Isn't there a one month grace period to renew if you were a member in 2008 ?? That's what I recall from past years.

[bmugwump]

I haven't heard of that, but that doesn't mean there's not one....we'll have to check that out.

[ERicJ]

A google search of the PDGA site (http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&q=site%3Awww.pdga.com%2F+renew+grace&btnG=Search) shows only one relevant match (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/printthread.php?Cat=0&Board=Club022&main=490122&type=thread) for "renew" and "grace":

Posted on the msg board by _EX_disc (http://discussion.pdga.com/msgboard/showprofile.php?Cat=0&User=3271&Number=497099&Board=Club022&what=showflat&page=&fpart=&vc=1) on Jan 18, 2006:
from Pat Brenner on 1-10-06:
"i just got the spec for this, and yes, we will be recoding to allow member a grace period into the new year. non-current members will be able to see their ratings and details, and post on the board.

after the grace period, however, those membership benefits will expire."That doesn't really say anything about tournament play. More just website stuff.

[TBender]

Grace period is only for MB use, not for play.

[bmugwump]

I renewed around the 1st of December & just noticed when printing out the roster for tomorrow that I am NOT shown as current! Hopefully we will have access to a list that PDGA provides before tournaments that shows new registrations & renewals....otherwise we might have to ask people to pay the extra $10 until we can verify it. Like I was saying earlier....please bring proof of renewal or registration if you can.

[Suemac]

Well, I didn't get all of my move finished, therefore, you guys have fun tomorrow without me.

Hope that "current" situation isn't a nightmare in the morning.

Everyone.............think solid ground. :D

[ERicJ]

Regarding parking tomorrow.

The onsite lot by holes #1/#2 is only going to hold about 12-14 cars. Neal says if you're parking on the street: "Park only on side of street AWAY from course."

ERic

[TBender]

Props to Birdshot for their first event of 2009! I think 49 players braved the cold 80 degree temps to play The Links.

Great effort by the Brogdons on handling the scoring/sorting as well. It only gets easier from here. :)

I hope this does make Birdshot rethink their registration policy and start allowing day-of signups regularly. Y'all handled it quite well from what I saw.

[Imnotobsessed]

I heard nothing but good things about everything today. :D:D Way to go Brogdons and Birdshot.:D

[ThePatrick]

You guys say "Brogdons" like there were actually 2 of us doing something...

[discmagnet]

Hello and thank you to all who came out to the links on Saturday. Several people renewed their PDGA memberships at the tournament. Please PM me if you were one of those people.

[TBender]

You guys say "Brogdons" like there were actually 2 of us doing something...

Tiffany handling scores and Shiner handling crowd control...

[bmugwump]

Great time Saturday & thanks to all the players who showed up...we scared the rain away! Yeah, we thought everything went pretty well too...except we (I) was not making good enough notes on the sign-in sheet as to who had to pay the extra $10 for PDGA & who did not, so that's causing some problems on filling out the info on the TD report (sorry Tiffany). I know that after the first of the year that this won't be much of an issue, but right now (like last January) it's kind of a bitch. Also we did not get the updated PDGA members list that we usually get from PDGA, which would have been helpful figuring that out. To address what Tony said about rethinking day-of registration, we'd still rather keep it pre-registration only...you have to remember that 32 of the 50 people that played Saturday WERE preregistered, so we were only having to gather info for 18 people. It would have been a lot different & would have taken a lot longer if we had been signing in 72 or more people....or even 50 if some were preregistered. I know that if we do day-of's again (and Chuck says NO!!!!!!) I will have a form ready to fill in ALL of the important info that we missed getting Saturday. Other than the TD report headaches that Tiff is having to deal with, everything DID go very well & I thought Tiffany did a great job! Plus I was extra jazzed because I won my first Advanced Grandmaster's division!!! I would like to thank my sponsor Scooter, who had faith in me all along & who I did not want to disappoint. See you guys & gals in Port Arthur on February 7 at Pleasure Island!

[Throw Innova]

great job by all involved. the tv with football on while we were waiting was a great touch. although, if you guys can't control the wind any better than that, i might not play another birdshot event. that was one of the most nerve racking round i have ever played. 12 ft putts shouldn't make you pucker.

i loved the day of registration. i realize that it makes for more work on the day of for the TD's. but at the same time, it is really convenient for people that don't have the freedom, time or money to pre-register. for me, paying in cash is much preferred to paying online.

perhaps some sort of compromise can be made. limit day of registration to 7:30-8:00. if you don't make it in that time frame, sorry. this opens it up for those that need to be able to make a late decision. it also gives the TD's time to deal with the extra work.

[bmugwump]

There are valid reasons both ways on the day-of stuff...I see people's points about not knowing if they're going to get off work or something like that. As far as fair weather players go, I say bring an umbrella you big sissy! On the other hand, from the TD's standpoint, it makes things so much easier to have all of the info, cards & payout calculations done ahead of time. When & if we do awards, it's impossible to know how many to order if we don't know how many players we have in each division. Also remember that you don't have to pay online...you can always mail me a check! There are pros & cons on both sides of this thing...but I can assure you that things do run more smoothly with pre-registration.

[Jake Walsdorf]

I'm sorry I missed Bubba's "coming of age" tourney win.

Congrats you almost old man.

[ERicJ]

When & if we do awards, it's impossible to know how many to order if we don't know how many players we have in each division.
Do you really order awards between when registration closes on Friday 5pm and the tournament starts less than 24 hours later??

ERic

[DGJesús]

Do you really order awards between when registration closes on Friday 5pm and the tournament starts less than 24 hours later??

ERic

Leave it to Scooter Jr. to piss on the parade :cool: I say if it ain't broke . . .

Another great tournament but I doubt I'm going to play that course again (except for tournaments) until I have a better game . . . which might be never. It doesn't make sense to me to go out there and lose literally hundreds of dollars in discs for a couple rounds of golf. It's a great course, don't get me wrong, but it's just too challenging for my Rec game.

A big thanks to all of the swimmers in the group who braved the wind driven, rock crashing waves to retrieve discs. To Birdshot for adding someone pretty to look at even if we had to take Patrick as part of the deal. And I want to thank my sponsor, Bullshitters of America. We're thinking of sponsoring a tournament sometime after the Scooter World Invitational, for which we are all are awaiting with much anticipation. The rules will be altered for the sponsor. The first round will go pretty much the same. But instead of grouping the 2nd round by scores, the players will be grouped by levels of bullshitting in between rounds. This configuration will group the bullshitters together so the rest of the players don't have to listen to it. I think the top card has pretty much already been determined, right Lou?

Be looking for more information in posts to follow. There won't be any more information but be looking for it anyway.

Peace, love, and har-money!!
DGJ

[chessguy]

I'm sorry I missed Bubba's "coming of age" tourney win.

Congrats you almost old man.

Hey, Jake. So he's still waiting to turn 40. Joe Hague makes 40 this year also. I look forward to playing with you guys in Masters after Worlds this summer.

[ERicJ]

A big thanks to all of the swimmers in the group who braved the wind driven, rock crashing waves to retrieve discs.
Yeah, I've got that star XCaliber of yours that was pulled out Randy. I even saw a Suemac disc in the pile of recovereds.

ERic

[discmagnet]

I even saw a Suemac disc in the pile of recovereds.

ERic


Sue I have your disc and can meet you a moffit to give it to you. Just PM with time that you will be there.

[tarazarr]

there was a guy on my card that found a disc belonging to Sue as well, but he ran out of drivers and had to throw it, needless to say he threw it back in the pond...:D

Sorry Sue (it was a really old looking disc though) doubt it would have ever made it back in your throwing bag)

[tarazarr]

on a side note....because of Birdshot offering a "day of" sign-ups, I was able to talk a friend of mine into coming out and playing in the tournament (his first) bad course for a first tournament.. but maybe he'll come out to the next one and become a regular.

Thanks for offering day of...due to all the stuff going on around the holidays I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to make it out myself.

I don't think I'll play that course again unless it's a tourney either

16.00 entry fee
60.00 in lost disc
7.00 for lunch
5.00 for gas

pretty expensive day:( had fun though and I think I made a little of it back..are the results posted yet?

[ThePatrick]

Yes they are up at PDGA.com

[ERicJ]

are the results posted yet?
Results posted here:
http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8522&year=2008&include_ratings=1#Open

Round ratings are unofficial at this point. But based on them the morning round SSA was 51.17 and the afternoon round was 52.4. The wind on Saturday made it a bit tougher than the nice weather we had at TxSDGC last year where the LINKS was a 49.94 SSA (http://www.pdga.com/course-ratings-by-tournament?TournID=7296).

ERic

[ThePatrick]

Oh yeah and congrats to CJ who cashed in his first Rec tournament. (that I know of, he may have played rec in Victoria)

[bmugwump]

Yes, scores are posted....and I've got a voucher for Tarazarr! Second place I think. Also regarding ERic's question about awards...if we have a reasonable idea a couple of days ahead of time of about how many divisions & how many players in those divisions then yes, we can order them as late as Wednesday from the trophy place we've worked with this past year & they will have them ready for us by lunchtime Friday. I guess we could get generic trophies, but we really enjoy giving out the ones with the event name & date on them.

[LOU18132]

Yes DG if I could play Rec I might be on the top card, with Eric and his 900 rated rounds, playing Rec. until his rating improves. :confused: FYI, S.A still has local meetings in the Houston area Eric, and I believe there is a thread for them. :rolleyes:
As for DG, if BS was the determining factor, you would be a 1050 rated player and a Rec. Open Prodigy at 46. :D Wait, or is that Proctologist?

Yes that's it, Recreational Open Proctologist, R.O.P.

Randy Samora M.D. of Ass :cool::eek::D

[ERicJ]

Thanks for the advice Lou. FYI there are two kinds of courses: my kind, and not my kind. The LINKS falls into the former category. Go check out my round ratings at Spring Valley (http://pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8200#Recreational) when the PDGA decides to finally release them.

ERic

[LOU18132]

Just messing with ya.:cool:

[ERicJ]

That's fine; I expect it. But the other benefit of hanging around REC is where else can you play on Randy's card? That's the best entertainment in disc golf.

[ThePatrick]

Yeah.. eric, always beating up on those with handicaps, the youth and well, randy. I'm glad only one of my rounds was over 900. Lou may be giving me crap as well...:)

[LOU18132]

Play Up, see what happens, you might learn something.;)

[LOU18132]

That's fine; I expect it. But the other benefit of hanging around REC is where else can you play on Randy's card? That's the best entertainment in disc golf.

You are easily amused I see.

[DGJesús]

The previous responses are why I hate White people . . . or at least the guys . . . and one of the "women." And there's a kid quickly making his way up the list. I have found nothing that builds up my self esteem faster than getting whooped by someone 4 times younger who has been on the circuit a fraction of the time I have. I haven't been that embarassed since Lou came home early from work.

Respectfully (except to White people . . . or at least the guys . . . and in particular one of the "women.")
DGJesús
LifeTime Rec Player

[LOU18132]

I haven't worked since you were in your 30's DG. As for hating white people, I dislike more of them than my brown friends, you just became a cause, and action, the more BS the more fun and BS. :rolleyes:

If it were not for your posts on this board, I would live a normal life, TY

[ERicJ]

My guess is 200+ lost discs!
Although we did set a new course record with one guy losing ten discs in one round I don't think the count of discs tossed in during the rounds hit 200. And definitely the count was nowhere near that number after at least six or seven people went out afterwards on recovery missions and returned with stacks of plastic for the lost and found pile. Of what I personally saw probably close to 100 discs were pulled out afterwards.

Many thanks to those that went in the water and returned all the discs that they found.

Don pulled out a tie dye Champ Eagle from #5 that was the first disc I ever threw in the first time I played the LINKS on Feb 24, 2008. Over ten months under water.

ERic

[tarazarr]

thats crazy I saw some very big snakes in there around hole 3,4 and 5

[bmugwump]

I don't think those snakes are venomous...that said, you wouldn't catch me in there! They can still bite!!! And my guess is that it would still hurt!