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ERicJ
12-29-2008, 02:31 PM
Hey all,

It is with great sorrow that I announce that after 5+ years of diligent planning and hard work, the Red Hawk Disc Golf Course at the Plantation Inn is expected to come out of the ground in mid to late January.

With new ownership taking over 2 years ago, I look back now with the vision of hind sight and realize that it was just a matter of time, as the new ownership was heading in a different direction, but I also realize that sometimes disc golfers are their own worst enemy and can speed up a process or even nullify the hard work of others by being foolish and ultimately, selfish.

Because there is an ongoing investigation (with help from the PDGA) into the problems encountered during the Players Cup, I will not comment further on the specifics (namely who) of the reasons that the Plantation Inn gave during the final meeting, but here were the 3 primary complaints:

~Overwhelming smell of marijuana in the hotel and on the course
~Destruction of hotel property
~Lack of respect for course rules - dress code, golf cart abuse, overall conduct

Typically I would not indulge those who wish us harm by shedding some light on the details, but since I lost a course and collectively, we lost the home for a PDGA major, I think it's appropriate. I would like to state that this range of violations came from players, spectators and, much to my dismay, even from some staff members, but no one party is more to blame than the other in my opinion as I look at it as a "group effort". In all fairness, most of these violations were never brought to my attention by the hotel staff until 2 weeks after the Players Cup during a meeting and thus proves to me that hotel was hoarding the information to use in their case to dissolve our relationship, but I really can't even blame them.

I am currently working on several deals to try and find a home for the baskets before we pull the course to make the transition quicker and easier. This is the primary reason that I don't have a specific date yet that course is coming out and hopefully the Plantation Inn will grant me a bit more time to complete a deal. With that being said, we are also going to be looking for a new home for the Players Cup, a process that is already in the works.

I would like to thank Discraft and all of those who helped along the way for this truly special opportunity, Red Hawk, you will be missed...

Source: http://discussion.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=894528

TBender
01-02-2009, 04:16 PM
DG'ers strike again.

zipper
01-05-2009, 05:15 PM
One has to wonder if this didn't hurt our relationship with Quail Valley. I was at last year's TS for about 3 hours total during the tournament and saw donuts, bumper car racing, and numerous other inappropriate activities with carts. We do like to hurt ourselves don't we.

Suemac
01-06-2009, 04:38 AM
One has to wonder if this didn't hurt our relationship with Quail Valley. I was at last year's TS for about 3 hours total during the tournament and saw donuts, bumper car racing, and numerous other inappropriate activities with carts. We do like to hurt ourselves don't we.

Given the players were not using the carts and that was staff, I'd say we do hurt ourselves. :o

Sounds like the new owners of that development was already planning to remove the disc golf course, and for those who are not wild and crazy, it allows them the opportunity to drive their viewpoint home.

As for QV................isn't that owned by the City of Missouri City now and not the country club crowd? Sounds like Zipper is trying to drive the same point home around here, ah? :rolleyes:

zipper
01-06-2009, 01:19 PM
Are you sure that no players drove carts, say during warm ups, out there... Indeed, I saw a number of players abusing carts... On the other hand, I don't recall any of the staff taking advantage of the carts.

As for the rest of it, that's why I wrote "I have to wonder" as opposed to "I know what's going on." On the other hand, I think the notion that our player's behaviors in public does hurt us, ergo the fact that the disc golf = drug use label never quite goes away, is an argument I could clearly defend in the Red Hawk case. Golf Clubs have a structure they expect to be maintained, snobby or not. You might not like that or them, but they don't ask us to act any differently then they ask their own members.