new courses

[mattman]

Can someone give me directions to the new course out near katy and hwy 6?

[mattman]

like to sometime today? pretend there is an argument going on and look at what I am asking and answer if you can correctly. lol

[ERicJ]

Can someone give me directions to the new course out near katy and hwy 6?
Crosspoint Community Church (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=356)?

[mattman]

i would have bet money you would put a link up. just delete the thread... .j

NEW course... again who ever has the power, please delete, I am more interested in arguing than playing anyway.

[bmugwump]

We're planning on having a mini out there February 28th.

[ThePatrick]

If Eric doesn't know about it, there's a good chance that it's not complete or it's in a different area. Where did you hear about this course?

[Suemac]

Chuey, they don't get it. LOL

[ThePatrick]

Nice. Great laugh.

[ERicJ]

Checking my calendar... nope not April 1. WTF?

[Suemac]

Don't take life so serious. Remember, this is a game, most of us play for fun, and it should never be like...........a job. :eek:

Deep breath, relax.............WTF and go throw at your earliest convenience, which I hope is very soon for you. :D

[Miller]

I'm confused. Is there a new course or was this just a joke to see what kind of posts this thread would get?

[bmugwump]

Apparently the latter...although we are having a mini at Crosspointe Church on February 28. It's kind've a neat little nine-hole course that runs around the property...there's even some little elevation changes. Definitely not a new course though.

[ERicJ]

Chuey, they don't get it. LOL

Yep, your right there. I completely did not get the idea that someone would post a thread where the entire point was to waste everybodys' time. LOL for sure, hilarious. :rolleyes:

[LOU18132]

If you always live inside the lines you are just taking up space. Humor, a waste of time? Well DG must be the biggest waste of time on the board, I think his post are humorous, though long winded. :D:cool::rolleyes:

[Suemac]

ERic, I feel for you and your serious posture. You probably wouldn't have appreciated those who came before............like Father Dave Tayloe.

Laughter is the best medicine.

Dr. Suemac is writing a RX for ERic...............deep laughter five minutes daily..............it will improve your game. You should give it a try.

[Suemac]

Yep, your right there. I completely did not get the idea that someone would post a thread where the entire point was to waste everybodys' time. LOL for sure, hilarious. :rolleyes:


You must have tons of time, so laugh. You manage to read and link us to death, I am sure you can schedule a moment of laughter during your structured/serious day. Or just keep reading Mojo's posts.

[bmugwump]

You can bet that ERic's laughing his ass off every time you guys take HIM seriously....he's a much more lighthearted guy than these posts reveal! And I'm sure he gets a kick out of egging people on just like some of you. I'll say it again.......nobody communicating within the confines of this board has any kind of true idea of who all of us really are. Get us all out on a course & put some discs in our hands & we would all come off differently than we do here...and we'd all probably have a good time in the process!

[ThePatrick]

....nobody communicating within the confines of this board has any kind of true idea of who all of us really are. Get us all out on a course & put some discs in our hands & we would all come off differently than we do here..
Like how Matt Petre is really a woman! And randy is really, well nevermind, that one may be confirmed...

[Suemac]

They only let Randy out on M-W-F and every other weekend. And that's only with an escort. Poor Cheryl. :D

[LOU18132]

WTF, Randy showed up at my place on Tuesday with an escort, she was fine. :cool::eek::rolleyes:

[Suemac]

:D:eek::D;)

[mattman]

I really heard there was a course over by Al's sports bar. I have some friends that have played it or something like that. Anyways there is plenty of room in that area for several courses.

[JDiscraft]

There is a new course on the west side of town.... go to main forum and scroll down to BridgePoint Bible Church. Enjoy.

[mattman]

thanks Jim, and I bet it did not hurt on bit to give me a straight forward answer, no link needed.

[gcrussell4]

There are 9 baskets in the Shadow Creek Ranch development down in Pearland. It is on the west side of 288 just south of the beltway. The course is located around a soccer field on the southwest part of Clear Lake Loop. It is in the southern/central part of the development.

As far as I can tell (as a resident), there was no thought to design when the course was put in. They have very good quality baskets, but no map or tees. The baskets are numbered so that you can kind of have an idea which to throw at, but there is nothing marked beyond that. I have been meaning to go out there and try to set something up that makes sense, but I just haven't taken the time to do it yet.

Does anyone know anything more about the course? Was there any thought put into the design?

I also thought that I would mention that there is a large sports complex being put in pretty soon just north of the Shadow Creek Development on Shadow Creek Parkway. As far as I could tell from the map, it looks like there will be some prime locations to maybe sneak a course in there.

Here is a link to a estimated LOCATION (http://maps.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTExNmIycG51BF9TAzI3MTYxNDkEc2VjA2ZwLWJ1 dHRvbgRzbGsDbGluaw--#mvt=m&lat=29.559391&lon=-95.403468&zoom=15&q1=pearland%252C%2520tx) of where the Shadow Creek course is.

[LOU18132]

It was put in about 5 years ago, and as you can tell it was not put in by a disc golfer, probably HOA.

[gcrussell4]

New course found in Lake Jackson area. 18 holes, mostly short. My buddy Daniel has played a it a few times and says it only was finished this past week. I don't know much else other then this, but thought I would throw this out there.

[gcrussell4]

This must be the course...

Dunbar Park (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=3246)

[derek]

Scott,

Where is this Spring Creek park, I would like to come take a look.

[tarazarr]

Hwy 249 about 1 mile north of 2920, you'll see a brown parks sign for Spring Creek park turn left follow the road for about a half mile and there it is.

[BossJay]

Spring Creek park does also flood alot when it rains with Spring Creek running through it. The field next to the creek gets it bad also. Used to play mud football after a good down pour out there. Both places are bad when it floods. Burroughs Park has ALOT more land and it don't have to be in the back. I don't care which one (if we can get one in) it goes in. I do like the idea of having an day/night tournament or whatnot. Forgot about the camp grounds out at Spring Creek and I think it's five bucks a night, but the gate closes at 10:00 P.M. I belive. But my friend lived in Spring Creek (sub-divison next to the store) at the very back and the creek was in his back yard and got bad when we had heavy rains (as for alot of courses). There was a trail that we could walk in five min. and be at the back of the park. But it don't matter to me as long as we have one here in Tomball and both of the parks are gated also.

[tarazarr]

I haven't been to Spring Creek after a huge rain, so Ill take your word on it about it flooding as well. I did try to go mountain biking in the back of Borroughs park after a heavy rain and it wasn't possible.

The thing that really strikes me about Spring Creek is the elevation changes, kind of like those 2 holes at Shawshank that just go downhill forever. The natural fairways you see in the open areas of the park added with the property that is still very heavily wooded just seems like the perfect mix to create something very special.

It can be done with support from people who live up north, who would be the ones that would play it regularly.

I have a different plan in mind then how a course seems to normally go in. I wouldn't want it to turn out resting on one persons shoulders and getting volunteers turning out to be more painful then pulling teeth.

I would have no problem being a project coordinator (so to speak) and doing the footwork to get land use approval and listening the advice of those that have experience with this endeavor. I also would be willing to (heck I would insist) that I get to design and build one hole. That hole would rest on my shoulders.

This would be my plan - 18 holes = 18 owners

I'll own one. Each "owner" commits to aquiring (however you can do it) 1 basket. I don't care if they are discatcher pros, Mach III, Mach V, or even a damn heavy duty PDGA spec home made basket (within reason of course) you can't have the other 17 owners saying "Dude...that ghetto basket ain't gonna fly here" It's gotta be a damn good basket if you know what I mean....but lets move on.

The 18 "owners" get together and nominate a potential designer for the course layout by majority vote - by course layout, I mean just the overall flow - someone who would be willing to donate their time to walk the property extensively, finding the great natural aspects, obstacles, trees rocks, ditches, canopies, you name it, that could be incorporated into the design of each hole - making it the best it could be.

Then the "18 Owners" get to walk the layout and choose the hole they want to build - Doing the best they can to staying within the overall layout and respecting any specific landmarks the designer identified for that hole, they have a clean canvas upon which to create.

They become the owner of that hole and the buck stops with them. They are personally responsible for the completion of their hole.

This way you don't end up with one guy standing on the mountain top shouting for volunteers, getting frustrated and burning out.

Personally I have 3 other guys that I would ask to help me build my hole, I couldn't ask them to build a course - but a hole? yeah, I could count on them for that. And that's kind of the idea - build the hole you want to build, the hole you'd be excited to build. 1 hole is not an overwhemling task.

As far as donating a basket? Don't have one? Don't be afraid to be creative. I went to play it again sports and the manager there told me if I could get approval for an 18 hole public course in Tomball, then Play it Again would sponsor the basket for one hole.

It can be done - all we gotta do is venture out of the box.

Once all 18 holes are in - I think a grand opening fundraising tourney "No Payout" to fund concrete T-boxes for each hole would be great.

The Childrens book "Stone Soup" was/is the inspiration for this idea.

In this financial climate, we are gong to have to do it a different way - that's what I'm proposing.

and to the "Nay Sayers" - don't waste your time - I've never listened to you before and I've accomplished some pretty cool things with the right group of people sharing a common vision.

Who's in?

[BossJay]

Let's talk about this some more at the next NSCG meeting May 7th at Seth's house. We can get a better idea of what we can do and who all can help us.

[hfds006]

Having a course out in the Tomball area would be great.

Spring Creek is a Harris County park so you would have to deal with them and not the city of Tomball.

There was an object course (4x4 post) installed by the HFDS back in the early 90's. At that time there weren't nearly as many (if any) golfers in that area. Also Harris County never expressed much interest in making it permanent. At the same time courses were finally being installed in other areas so Spring Creek sort of feel by the wayside.

You will get some flooding there if we get heavy rains, but that it true for most parks in the Houston/Harris County area. The layout at Spring Creek makes it a bit difficult to design a smooth flowing course that doesn't interfer too much with the roads or other park users. It's not impossible it will just require a little extra effort.

I like the idea of "18 hole owners", but you will want to put some thought in how you present that to Harris County. The idea shows that you have a lot of support for the course, but you don't want them to get the impression that it's a bunch of individuals all out there "doing there own thing". That's just my opinion, there are plenty of folks around that can give better pointers on how to approach the county than I can.

Good luck!!

[icantdrive355]

My guess is that the county/city would not be receptive to the "individually owned" holes thing. That's just my opinion/assumption. I think that is a great "concept" on private land, but not civic. Borroughs is a great piece of property that can probably have a course fit in. The best bet would be to get "players" together to donate the funds to buy the baskets and let the "powers that be" go from there....i.e. find a "qualified" course designer set it up............we all think we're "qualified", but it needs to be done right when you're dealing with city/county, etc

[LOU18132]

If we donate funds, do we get a say in who the so called qualified designer is, and how much their take of the funds are. :rolleyes:

If a true disc golf course designer does it, that is great, I'm in. :)

[tarazarr]

Lou,
if your talking about my proposal, your questions are already answered in it.

I think it would be great if Icantdrive355 starts a project at burroughs park. The more courses in Tomball the better.

My plan is what it is, there is room for 16 more people to assemble their team and build a hole. I'd love to have you and your team onboard brother, give it some thought.

[tarazarr]

I walked Spring Creek park yesterday evening with another member from this board who has a proven track record of making things happen. I am very encouraged that he sees the same potential in this location as I do and is ready to jump in with both feet.

The initial phone calls will start today to identify who is in charge, to present a proposal to for the building of this course.

The proposal will have to be drawn up.

Do I present a proposal that says "Hey we love disc golf would you build us a course?" with a park staff that's probably understaffed already, with a budget that's probably underfunded already. And then just wait for them to say, "Boy we'd love to do it, but we don't have the budget or the manpower for such an undertaking, but we'll certainly keep you in mind."

Or do I present a proposal that says "We the citizens of Spring, Tomball, Houston, The Woodlands, Cypress, Conroe and so on would like to build a disc golf course on the under utilized areas of this beautiful park, in the same fashion as the Boy Scouts have built your wonderful nature trails. We'll fund the equipment through personal donations and those of businesses in the local area. We'll have a professional course designer come in and study the property that you'll allow us to work with and present a course plan that maximizes the use of land that is already cleared and minimizes any ecological impact, and errosion concerns of land that will need to be minimally cleared at our expense and present a course layout that is safe from all other park traffic. Once our plan is approved, we'll assemble volunteer teams to complete the work on a mutually agreeble time table and maintain the equipment through fundraising tournaments.

In either proposal we'll certainly present them with all the benefits that disc golf brings to an area, but which proposal do you think is going to go further?

The Boy Scouts don't ask the park to do it for them, they volunteer to do it themselves.

I'm hoping Disc golfers can look inside and say has the sport brought more to my life than it has taken? Can I help put one more basket on the discgolfcoursereview.com map? Would I like to leave my mark and legacy on what could quite possibley become the very best course within 50 miles, maybe 100 miles? Can I put my own pocket book aside this time and work for free on this one? Can I give back one inspiring hole in honor of the person who introduced me to the sport and that hopefully will inspire one new person into the sport when they step up to my Tbox and go "wow, that's cool?

The overall task is huge no doubt, I'm not asking for anyone to bite off huge, just take one bite, there will be holes that require not much more than digging the hole and cementing in the basket. There will be others that will require a fair amount of manpower and labor. Take what you can handle and what you can commit to completing. There is so much passion for this sport around here. We CAN do it..

If we just had one more person step up, you will inspire one more to follow your lead. Are you ready to lead? :)

[Miller]

I would present a petition with as many signatures as possible on it with your request. It gives weight to what you present.

[bmugwump]

Hey gang! Some of you may have heard of the new 18 hole course at Dunbar Park in Lake Jackson....Jeremy Todd of the Lake Jackson Parks & Rec Board called me today & they would like Birdshot to host a grand opening tournament (like we did for Imperial a while back) sometime this summer. We are looking at a tentative date of July 18 for this. Chuck & I are going to meet Jeremy out there on Memorial Day (this Monday for those of you who have possibly forgotten!) at 10 AM....actually we're going to go out earlier in the morning to get a round in beforehand & check the course out....probably get there no later than 8:30 if anyone is interested in joining us. If you want to come at 10 we'll regroup & play again then. Take 288 to Lake Jackson & exit FM 2004....he said you'll see the water tower which is in the middle of the park & that you can't miss it! He also said the first tee is all the way down the drive at the back of the park. I heard about this course not too long ago & have been itching to get out there to check it out, so this gives us a great excuse! Hope to see some of you there if you're not too busy eating barbecue!!

[bmugwump]

Scratch that July 18th date! There was nothing on the Birdshot schedule but there's something on the Billy Gilbert schedule! It's my granddaughter's birthday party...gotta go, you know? Also, that's the same weekend as Tom Yocky's first B-tier for Stop Yer Cryin'...and I know some of you people will be going to that one. I'm going to ask the Lake Jackson people if August 1st will be okay....yes, that's the end of World's Week & there are a few Houston players going....but that will give the rest of us something to do while you're in Kansas!

[bmugwump]

Okay, here's the skinny on Dunbar Park....nice little course but probably should have been a nine hole course rather than 18 holes. Nothing against Jeremy Todd & the people that put it in, but I shot a 51 the second time around & I've never shot under par on any course anywhere ever....that's how easy it is! Great beginner & recreational course...and I must admit that it did make me feel good to shoot under par for the first time ever (playing singles anyway...I've shot under with partners in doubles a few times). I told Jeremy after birdies on the first two holes that if I ended up under par then the course was too easy. I ended up with a 55 the first round but then shot three under the second time around. It is a nice park & would be challening to beginners, but it would be too easy for the really good players. We are going to help them with the Grand Opening though...it will be August 1st & we're keeping it unsanctioned so the Lake Jackson people won't have to pony up a lot of money to play. Andi & Don will be at Worlds so it will be cash payout for all divisions....we will probably limit the novice division to brand new players & first timers...in other words, no baggers please! Hell, I'm still rated novice & shot under par...so you know what I mean! Again...I'm not knocking the course or the guys that designed it....but it is probably the easiest course I've played (other than Klute, where we went afterwards & I shot 7 down...but that doesn't really count - LOL!!!). More info as we get closer to August 1st!

[DPdiscer]

Andi called and said that somebody will bring the mobile pro shop for them for the Dunbar tournament. Cash payout to Pros only. I think the locals will enjoy seeing all the disc golf merchandise.

[Midnightbiker]

What will be the cost for this tournament?

[bmugwump]

It will probably be our usual base fees, but without the added $2 PDGA player fee since it won't be sanctioned...i.e., $10 for Novice/Rec, $15 for Intermediate, $20 for Advanced & $30 for open. I don't expect many open players to show up...a lot of them would be at Worlds or would find this course too easy. We want to keep it not sanctioned so the local players won't have to pony up that extra $10 that PDGA wants if you're not a member....and as Chuck posted, DG Consultants will send someone out with the Mobile Pro Shop, so AM payout will be in plastic. From talking to players out there Monday, they would welcome that....all they have is what's at Academy!

[ThePatrick]

It will probably be our usual base fees, but without the added $2 PDGA player fee since it won't be sanctioned...i.e., $10 for Novice/Rec, $15 for Intermediate, $20 for Advanced & $30 for open.
Normally it's 30 open, 25 adv, 20 int., 15 rec, and 10 novice.

[Midnightbiker]

I am going to try to get that Friday off, and be there on Saturday morning. Sounds like fun, and I love playing new courses.

[scoot_er]

Normally it's 30 open, 25 adv, 20 int., 15 rec, and 10 novice.


Is that at the minis? I know we pay like $50 at the sanctioned ones.

[ERicJ]

Is that at the minis? I know we pay like $50 at the sanctioned ones.
From the current PDGA Birdshot form:

Pro Open ($50)
Pro Age Protected ($40)
Adv ($25)
Int ($20)
Rec ($15)
Nov & Junior J1 & J2 ($10)
Junior J3 & J4 ($5)
Mandatory PDGA Fee +$2
Optional Ace Pot +$2


From the current Mini Birdshot form:

Pro Open - $20
Pro Other (Age Protected) - $15
Int and Adv - $10
Juniors, Novice, and Rec- $5
Ace pot - $1

[ThePatrick]

Sorry, I knew the lower divisions were wrong and just corrected those. Yes. Eric is correct.From the current PDGA Birdshot form:

Pro Open ($50)
Pro Age Protected ($40)
Adv ($25)
Int ($20)
Rec ($15)
Nov & Junior J1 & J2 ($10)
Junior J3 & J4 ($5)
Mandatory PDGA Fee +$2
Optional Ace Pot +$2


From the current Mini Birdshot form:

Pro Open - $20
Pro Other (Age Protected) - $15
Int and Adv - $10
Juniors, Novice, and Rec- $5
Ace pot - $1

[bmugwump]

Birdshot will get together as a group & talk about what to charge....again, I'd like to keep it cheap for the locals/first-timers that are likely to show up. Chances are the fees for this one will be diffrerent from usual fees for that reason. Matt, if you show up to show everybody out there how it's done, you'll probably shoot 18 down...or lower if you pop in an ace or two!! This would be a great course for an Ace Race, come to think of it....someone should organize one out there later this year!

[ChrisMacG]

Okay, here's the skinny on Dunbar Park....

We played Dunbar this morning and enjoyed the park. Most of the holes are pretty easy, but the big trees with their low canopies made it challenging to my game. My favorite holes were #9 (what a sight from the tee) and #13 through 18. Those were the most challenging as they deal with elevation changes and in the case of #13 the big risk/reward choice with the fence.

Dunbar Park is really a great park. My fiancee and I both were impressed by the sheer size of the oaks in the park. The view along the creek at the back was also really nice. Probably one of the most idyllic park settings for disc golf in the area.

Oh yeah, most of the baskets still have some plastic on the chains. It was fun to be some of the first people to play this course.

I've posted some photos to DGCourse Review (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/gallery.php?id=3246&mode=gal).

Has anyone got the distances for this course? They were written on the tees but I didn't note them down while I played.

[derek]

I heard there is a new one going in at Eastham-Thomason park in huntsville, or maybe it is already there.

[bmugwump]

It's not really new, but it is! The second course at Jack Brooks Park is finally all in the ground...that is, eighteen baskets are now in instead of just sixteen! The tee posts aren't in quite yet, but the course can be played....also wanted to move the thread iconone put out there that had TLV in the title!;)