Birdshot/Double Barrel @ Jack Brooks BCS Finale - 11/13/2010

[ChrisMacG]

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The Birdshot Championship Series Finale is coming up soon and we're excited about it. Hope to see everyone out at Brooks!

[ChrisMacG]

Registration for Double Barrel Brooks is now up on the Birdshot website. (http://bit.ly/chNw0u)

Lot's of announcements about the event too. Here's a brief rundown of what we've got in store for everyone at Birdshot's biggest tourney ever:


Friday Doubles - $10 a person, either course. More details to come.
Friday night Birdshot party at Gulf Greyhound Park including a CTP demo/contest over the pond between races.
Catered lunch from Boondoggles available.
Limited edition Birdshot Double Barrel performance shirts (discount with registration).

More info on the Birdshot website. (http://bit.ly/chNw0u)

[Suemac]

Didn't I hear that you guys are offering performance shirts? And how do I get one?

[Smokin' Joe]

Didn't I hear that you guys are offering performance shirts? And how do I get one?

There are three ways to get a Birdshot Double Barrel Performance Shirt:

Purchase a shirt directly from Birdshot using the form below.
Purchase a shirt with your tournament registration (http://www.hfds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=125:registration-form&catid=57:bcs-finale) and receive $2 off each shirt you order.
Bring in two hole sponsors (http://www.hfds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=123:help-us-find-sponsors-get-a-free-shirt&catid=57:bcs-finale) for the event and receive a free Birdshot Double Barrel Performance Shirt.
Shirts will be available at check-in on November 12th and 13th. For an extra charge you can select to have your shirts mailed to you.
Let folks know that you played in Birdshot's biggest tournament of the year by ordering a performance shirt today!

http://houstonbirdshot.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=124:limited-edition-double-barrel-performance-shirts&catid=57:bcs-finale

[ERicJ]

*All entry fees include a $3 PDGA fee, a $1 green fee and a $2 online registration fee.
When did Jack Brooks Park start charging a greens fee?

[ChrisMacG]

When did Jack Brooks Park start charging a greens fee?

Parks often charge Birdshot to rent a pavilion, the green fee is to offset this cost so it doesn't impact the prize purse.

[Smokin' Joe]

Parks often charge Birdshot to rent a pavilion, the green fee is to offset this cost so it doesn't impact the prize purse.

Why rent when you can just CLAIM it? POWER in #'s! :cool:

[ThePatrick]

Why rent when you can just CLAIM it? POWER in #'s! :cool:

That happened last year at MacGregor and all of our stuff was unplugged and thrown off to the side of the pavillion during the round by some very persuasive women who's kids party we were encroaching on.

[ChaseTheAce]

That happened last year at MacGregor and all of our stuff was unplugged and thrown off to the side of the pavillion during the round by some very persuasive women who's kids party we were encroaching on.

man, what a place to have a party:)

[ThePatrick]

man, what a place to have a party:)

Grasshopper, you missed the point of the that story. Now re-read it twice, and write a 700 word essay on why you missed it in the first place, or you don't get to come to the finale.

[ChrisMacG]

Grasshopper, you missed the point of the that story. Now re-read it twice, and write a 700 word essay on why you missed it in the first place, or you don't get to come to the finale.

And don't wait until the night before to start this essay either.

[Keith H]

i have a few questions, the doubles on friday is that random or pick your own? if its pick your own, will team names be used or just our names? i wanna bring my bro out and see if we can take rec!

also the ctp at the dog track. is that gonna be the open guys? or is everyone aloud to try and not throw it in the pond?

are we using our own discs for the ctp?

this is probably going to be my first sanctioned event so im totally looking forward to it.

see ya out there!

[ChrisMacG]

i have a few questions, the doubles on friday is that random or pick your own? if its pick your own, will team names be used or just our names? i wanna bring my bro out and see if we can take rec!

We are still deciding on the exact format for the doubles game but it will not be random. You can pick your doubles partner.

also the ctp at the dog track. is that gonna be the open guys? or is everyone aloud to try and not throw it in the pond?

are we using our own discs for the ctp?

There will be a limited number of slots for the dog track CTP. We are working out the logistics with the staff at GGP and will post more details. If I were to guess I'd say we will have between 10 & 20 entrants for the CTP.

Finally, yes you will use your own disc for the CTP but the pond at the dog track isn't all that deep. :D

[ChaseTheAce]

Grasshopper, you missed the point of the that story. Now re-read it twice, and write a 700 word essay on why you missed it in the first place, or you don't get to come to the finale.

my birthday is the 17th. if anyone wants to throw me a party at MacG, I will supply the KFC

[Smokin' Joe]

That happened last year at MacGregor and all of our stuff was unplugged and thrown off to the side of the pavillion during the round by some very persuasive women who's kids party we were encroaching on.

Yeah, I can see that happening at Mac. :eek:

[bmugwump]

Remember...if you have a business or know someone who would like to sponsor this event, check out details at www.houstonbirdshot.com (http://www.houstonbirdshot.com). I also wanted to add that we have the potential to have a LOT of people at this tournament...so even if someone hits our current $500 ace pot at Macgregor (and that could definitely happen!) we could/should have a hefty ace pot coming in from registration for the event! We're going to try to make this as cool as possible, so whether you've been a part of this year's series or not...please come on out for the doubles & party on Friday and the series finale on Saturday!

[ThePatrick]

For Doubles:

Typically we do $10/person so $20/team. Usually divisions are Open/Adv/and Intermediate. Cash payout for Open and plastic payout available saturday at some point for the Adv/Int divisions. It will probably be a flex start (so whenever you have a card of two teams presenet) between 2-5pm. It will be pushing it to get done before dark if you go out at five so just know that you should probably get there closer to 2 if possible.

This is all subject to change, but the most likely the case.

The format will be best shot.

[bmugwump]

I'm assuming we'll be holding the doubles event at the original course? It will play faster....

[ChrisMacG]

Remember...if you have a business or know someone who would like to sponsor this event, check out details at www.houstonbirdshot.com (http://www.houstonbirdshot.com).

The more sponsors we get for this tourney the bigger the prize purse and players packs will be. Plus, if you bring in two $50 hole sponsors you get a free performance shirt (must be in before Oct 24th). We also have cooler sponsorships for only $25 available.

[ERicJ]

That happened last year at MacGregor and all of our stuff was unplugged and thrown off to the side of the pavillion during the round by some very persuasive women who's kids party we were encroaching on.
Not exactly what happened.... just before the start of the second round a group of non-players came up to the pavilion and said they had it reserved for a party. I phoned Billy to see if Birdshot had it reserved and they didn't. So myself and the other players on holes #6 & #7 as neatly and efficiently as we could removed the Birdshot gear and relocated it nearby. But that's not the point....

[Smokin' Joe]

Not exactly what happened.... just before the start of the second round a group of non-players came up to the pavilion and said they had it reserved for a party. I phoned Billy to see if Birdshot had it reserved and they didn't. So myself and the other players on holes #6 & #7 as neatly and efficiently as we could removed the Birdshot gear and relocated it nearby. But that's not the point....

Yeah, better you guys than it be at the pawn shop down the street. :rolleyes:

[griff]

just read about the expo at the dog track, i'll throw a few across the pond if ya'll would like. my neck of the woods too.

[griff]

let me rephrase that,.. if ya'll will LET me!!! get to throw some plastic somewhere you're not supposed to throw plastic,can i ? please can i ??? wonder if they'll let us crush some from the stands???across 2004?? the possibilities are endless. i need to be put back in my cage .

[ChrisMacG]

let me rephrase that,.. if ya'll will LET me!!! get to throw some plastic somewhere you're not supposed to throw plastic,can i ? please can i ??? wonder if they'll let us crush some from the stands???across 2004?? the possibilities are endless. i need to be put back in my cage .

The folks at the dog track are concerned about the distance needed for the Vandapproach™ :eek:

[ERicJ]

The folks at the dog track are concerned about the distance needed for the Vandapproach™ :eek:
Let Griff chase the bunny with the dogs and by the time he gets to the first turn I bet he's ready to release/throw.

[JimKelly]

Does birdshot not want to post the scores at break during a tournament on PDGA.com?

Do yall not know how?

Do yall think its a bad idea?

Also when the tournament is done why does it take so long for the results to be put on PDGA.com?

[Smokin' Joe]

Does birdshot not want to post the scores at break during a tournament on PDGA.com?

Do yall not know how?

Do yall think its a bad idea?

Also when the tournament is done why does it take so long for the results to be put on PDGA.com?

uh, it's only October. :rolleyes:

[ChrisMacG]

Does birdshot not want to post the scores at break during a tournament on PDGA.com?

Break? What break? You mean when players are eating lunch and we're busting ass verifying score cards and putting together the second round order then shoveling pop-tarts or sandwiches in our pie holes in the five minutes left before the second round starts?

Do yall not know how?

No, we know how and it's easy. As easy as using an apostrophe. :p

Do yall think its a bad idea?

Honestly, we haven't given it much thought because there has been little demand for it. You're the first person I've heard ask this question. Plus, most of the time we don't have internet access at the parks. If someone wants to sponsor a mobile hotspot for Birdshot in 2011 please let me know and I'll train Birdshot on how to use it.

Also when the tournament is done why does it take so long for the results to be put on PDGA.com?

It depends on the TD running the tourney. Each Birdshot TD is responsible for uploading the tourney they run to the PDGA. We do try to get the results online quickly, but we often have a number of other competing demands on our time.

Most of the time a TDs day starts long before the players even arrive. We're out flagging the course; checking the pre-reg, answering phone calls from lost players and more. By the time I get home after TDing all I want to do is take a shower, have a drink and go to bed.

[ERicJ]

Also when the tournament is done why does it take so long for the results to be put on PDGA.com?
Most of the Birdshot tourneys I recall have had scores uploaded that same night. Good enough for me.

[bmugwump]

Results are almost always posted the same night....there have been maybe one or two exceptions, but for most part Chuck and/or Tiffany and/or Dolla Bill have them up that night! I'm not sure what's prompting your query, Jim?:confused:

[griff]

Let Griff chase the bunny with the dogs and by the time he gets to the first turn I bet he's ready to release/throw.
so can i fling sum over the pond??

[JimKelly]

I had to weed threw the post to get this...

Do ya'll think its a bad idea?

Honestly, we haven't given it much thought because there has been little demand for it. You're the first person I've heard ask this question."ChrisMacG"

This is why I am bringing this up. Most people like to see there rating as soon as possible. This is just one small thing to improve a Birdshot tournament.

Most of the Birdshot tourneys I recall have had scores uploaded that same night. Good enough for me. "EricJ"

Does that mean you don't want to get any better?

Results are almost always posted the same night....there have been maybe one or two exceptions, but for most part Chuck and/or Tiffany and/or Dolla Bill have them up that night! I'm not sure what's prompting your query, Jim?:confused: "Bmugwump"

What's prompting the question? B-TIER.
The possibility of out of town players.
The fact that it can and does get done by other TDs.
This is why I am bringing it up in October.

[ChrisMacG]

This is why I am bringing this up. Most people like to see there rating as soon as possible. This is just one small thing to improve a Birdshot tournament.

I've never seen a player check the PDGA website for round ratings during a tourney.

There is no wireless internet access at Jack Brooks Park - the closest I could find is in La Marque at the McDonald's. Anyone want to volunteer to take the first round results up to McD's for an upload during the tourney?

Seriously though, we are looking to improve our tournaments and we do want feedback so thanks Jim. I just don't see a lot of value-add or demand in mid-tourney uploads.

We did get Boondoggle's Pub to cater the event though. They're bringing out sandwiches and such for players who opt for the food option. We're also adding a Friday doubles round and Griff will be taking shots at the fake rabbit at the dog track from the other side of 2004. What more could you ask for? :D

[griff]

I've never seen a player check the PDGA website for round ratings during a tourney.

There is no wireless internet access at Jack Brooks Park - the closest I could find is in La Marque at the McDonald's. Anyone want to volunteer to take the first round results up to McD's for an upload during the tourney?

Seriously though, we are looking to improve our tournaments and we do want feedback so thanks Jim. I just don't see a lot of value-add or demand in mid-tourney uploads.

We did get Boondoggle's Pub to cater the event though. They're bringing out sandwiches and such for players who opt for the food option. We're also adding a Friday doubles round and Griff will be taking shots at the fake rabbit at the dog track from the other side of 2004. What more could you ask for? :D
kewl , very kewl.

[JimKelly]

Food options, that sounds nice!

Well, Birdshot can I help take the tournament information to a local hot spot to send the information to the pdga.com? I would like to do it at lunch time and after the tournament at the Mac G. tournament?

Do ya’ll for see any problems with doing this?

Do ya’ll have any suggestions for some local hot spots?

I am not playing in the Mac G tournament but I would like to come down and help get this accomplished and watch some rounds as a spectator.

[ChingLizard]

I've never seen a player check the PDGA website for round ratings during a tourney.

There is no wireless internet access at Jack Brooks Park - the closest I could find is in La Marque at the McDonald's. Anyone want to volunteer to take the first round results up to McD's for an upload during the tourney?

Seriously though, we are looking to improve our tournaments and we do want feedback so thanks Jim. I just don't see a lot of value-add or demand in mid-tourney uploads.

We did get Boondoggle's Pub to cater the event though. They're bringing out sandwiches and such for players who opt for the food option. We're also adding a Friday doubles round and Griff will be taking shots at the fake rabbit at the dog track from the other side of 2004. What more could you ask for? :D

Hey Chris and Jim. I have a "tether" for my Verizon cell phone which cables up to my laptop and hooks it up to the Internet via their 3G network. At Tom Bass last year, I was getting close to 1.2 MB throughput out of it.

It costs me $30/month to enable it, but I can do it for a month and then shut it down again. Are either of you interested?

[Smokin' Joe]

Hey Chris and Jim. I have a "tether" for my Verizon cell phone which cables up to my laptop and hooks it up to the Internet via their 3G network. At Tom Bass last year, I was getting close to 1.2 MB throughput out of it.

It costs me $30/month to enable it, but I can do it for a month and then shut it down again. Are either of you interested?

I was just going to mention that cell phone route. Good suggs!

[_d_g_]

yea, I've never checked for ratings during lunch.. but it is great to check them on the drive home and they're up

[Smokin' Joe]

yea, I've never checked for ratings during lunch.. but it is great to check them on the drive home and they're up

No Sir Officer, I was just driving. PROMISE! :rolleyes:

[ChrisMacG]

Well, Birdshot can I help take the tournament information to a local hot spot to send the information to the pdga.com? I would like to do it at lunch time and after the tournament at the MacG tournament?

Loch & Load won't be a problem. My wife works at UH and will upload the rounds from her office, about 5 minutes from the course. Thanks for the offer though.

[griff]

i have a suggestion,how about a magic show and balloon animals between rounds ?? maybe a three legged race?? sorry, couldn't help myself.

[ChaseTheAce]

I've never seen a player check the PDGA website for round ratings during a tourney.

This is in no way meant to be rude, but how many tournaments have you played outside of Houston that aren't C-Tiers?

It's pretty common to see scores posted by lunchtime at larger events. Everyone wants to know their round rating and start planning for the next round.

Dynamic Discs. Check out one of their events ASAP and I promise, your perspective as a player and TD will change drastically.

[griff]

This is in no way meant to be rude, but how many tournaments have you played outside of Houston that aren't C-Tiers?

It's pretty common to see scores posted by lunchtime at larger events. Everyone wants to know their round rating and start planning for the next round.

Dynamic Discs. Check out one of their events ASAP and I promise, your perspective as a player and TD will change drastically.
chase speaketh the truth. on the same note, oktoberfest results were not up for two days. alot of td's could take some cues from the d.d. guys. i do appreciate what birdshot does, greatly. i also realize they are kinda new at this. jeremy of d.d. always asks for input on how to make a turny better, wait, didn't chris just do that? right on and thnx again , birdshot has filled a few of my saturdays.

[ChingLizard]

Tiff - Patrick: I was just checking on the PDGA site to see what reg. list is looking like, and I'm not seeing anything up there. When do you think it's going to get posted?

I'm anxious to see how much campaigning I might need to do to make sure that the Old, Old guy division makes... (or does it matter? I think BS offers 1 and 2 player divisions, right?) Anyway, I'd like to see who else is signed up so I can go rustle up a couple of folks if they aren't already in it. (Are reading this Mr. Richard Lewis??? :eek: )

I see that we've got a few new arrivals to the GM division at Waterloo this year...welcome Stimpy, and Nez!!!

[bmugwump]

In our defense....DD has been able to raise a LOT more money than we do...and this will only be the third B-tier we've ever run. :o DD is actually a company....us Birdshot guys & gals all have real jobs & do the this (lovingly) in our spare time. The input is greatly appreciated & we've been able to advance technically this past year thanks to Chris...we try our best to get better all the time. I can see how players would like to see their round ratings after the first round....makes sense to me! We never got into this to make money....we just wanted to provide sanctioned events in-town. If we take the time to reach out to sponsors constantly (not always possible with us!) then maybe we could reach the same level that you talk about with Dynamic Discs' events. We're working on it....anybody know any rich benefactors out there? But really....our mission has always been to run local affordable tourneys & hopefully put what little extra money we get back into courses! There's a bunch of 'em in town as we all know...but as we also know, they're not all in very good shape. That's something that all of us players need to get more involved in...whether it's picking up trash or doing a little weed-eating or forging a relationship with local parks people. Chuck did that this year with Mason Park & it went from a joke to one of the best nine-hole courses in town! Anyway...didn't mean to preach....I'm just sayin'.......;)

[ChrisMacG]

This is in no way meant to be rude, but how many tournaments have you played outside of Houston that aren't C-Tiers?

None actually. Most of my free saturdays go to Birdshot or my family. I'll make an effort to hit some b-Tiers next year however Tiff, Patrick and $Bill do go to them.

It's pretty common to see scores posted by lunchtime at larger events. Everyone wants to know their round rating and start planning for the next round.

Dynamic Discs. Check out one of their events ASAP and I promise, your perspective as a player and TD will change drastically.

We always try to print and post scores at lunch time but generally we just print from our spreadsheet and that doesn't have round ratings. Birdshot would love to have the infrastructure that DD has for their tourneys however we are a 100% volunteer organization and infrastructure costs money.

[ChrisMacG]

This is probably a good time to mention that we are in full sponsorship mode for Double Barrel. One thing that the players can do to help raise the level of our events it to help bring in sponsors. $50 for a hole sponsorship isn't a lot of money for most businesses and it is for a good cause. The sponsorship money goes to mostly the event purse and the player's pack so when players bring in sponsors, players benefit.

This year we are trying something new and offering any player who brings in at least two hole sponsors a free Double Barrel Performance shirt (http://houstonbirdshot.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=123:help-us-find-sponsors-get-a-free-shirt&catid=57:bcs-finale).

So far we haven't had a single player take advantage of this offer. :confused: Chuck, Billy and I have been looking for sponsors, but we all have full time jobs too. Some of y'all have to know businesses that would be interested in sponsoring. Bring them in and help us make our events bigger.

[SAUCERSLINGER]

Posting up the rounds during the lunch break on the pdga site is more of a service to people who are not playing the tournament than to those who are.

It's great if you want see how a friend is doing at a tournament you wish you could be at, but instead you have to live, and play vicariously through other golfers round ratings. It's much more important for tournaments that last two or more days than it is for one day things.

I do appreciate when the are posted shortly after the tournament is over.

[ERicJ]

I hope Birdshot never uploads the scores to PDGA before the evening of... if they do that'll ruin the traditional post-tourney-drive-home game of "Guess Your Rating". :stirthepot:

[griff]

I hope Birdshot never uploads the scores to PDGA before the evening of... if they do that'll ruin the traditional post-tourney-drive-home game of "Guess Your Rating". :stirthepot:
be really kewl if they could post your ratings before the tourny!!! that might be part of the magic show i was talkin' about. hey billy, what am i gonna shoot next year at worlds?? but seriously, i'm happy as hell to have someone put a card in my hand and tell me what hole to start on.

[ChaseTheAce]

Birdshot would love to have the infrastructure that DD has for their tourneys however we are a 100% volunteer organization and infrastructure costs money.

oh yea, that's totally understood. you guys do a great job running what you offer (1 day C-Tiers/occasional B-Tier), but if you guys checked out a DD event it would just give you an idea of how well a tournament can be held at maximum capacity and still be run to its fullest potential. that is why you see so many people travel over 3 hours and often out of state to play their tournaments.

and one thing i think we overlook is how awesome of a service it is to have Don and Andi running an onsite vendor payout. Austin has awful payout for ams so far. it usually consists of a few molds form the bigger companies and sometimes a few tourney stamped CFR discs that are very overpriced.

[Suemac]

It's funny that you young toads seem to demand such trivial nonsense as Ratings between rounds. God knows how ya'll would have coped when ratings hadn't been invented yet.

Just funny how things have changed.

And Andi/Don do an awesome job for the locals, thank them the next time you see one of them. ;) :D

[scoot_er]

This is probably a good time to mention that we are in full sponsorship mode for Double Barrel. One thing that the players can do to help raise the level of our events it to help bring in sponsors. $50 for a hole sponsorship isn't a lot of money for most businesses and it is for a good cause. The sponsorship money goes to mostly the event purse and the player's pack so when players bring in sponsors, players benefit.

This year we are trying something new and offering any player who brings in at least two hole sponsors a free Double Barrel Performance shirt (http://houstonbirdshot.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=123:help-us-find-sponsors-get-a-free-shirt&catid=57:bcs-finale).

So far we haven't had a single player take advantage of this offer. :confused: Chuck, Billy and I have been looking for sponsors, but we all have full time jobs too. Some of y'all have to know businesses that would be interested in sponsoring. Bring them in and help us make our events bigger.
$25 would make more sense with two courses......$50 s kinda steep.

[scoot_er]

be really kewl if they could post your ratings before the tourny!!! that might be part of the magic show i was talkin' about. hey billy, what am i gonna shoot next year at worlds?? .
Pro Worlds right?

[ChrisMacG]

I wanted to remind everyone that pre-order for the Birdshot Double Barrel Performance Shirts ends in less than two weeks. These shirts are a fundraiser for the Double Barrel event and proceeds from shirt sales will go to the Player's Pack and prize pool at the tourney. Save $2 when you order with your registration. (http://houstonbirdshot.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=124:limited-edition-double-barrel-performance-shirts&catid=57:bcs-finale)

You will not be able to buy these shirts at the tourney. They are a pre-order only item.

http://houstonbirdshot.com/images/stories/2010_events/dbbf_shirts_green.jpg

[ThePatrick]

$25 would make more sense with two courses......$50 s kinda steep.

It's your purse that would be getting smaller....:confused:
Had a good talk to JD, Miles, Olse, Emac and a few others in SC and there was some decent interest in the tourney so go ahead and sign up Matt, we have a great refund policy if you end up not being able to make it. So do yourself a favor and start `helping us fill this 144 field with more than MA2 and age protected.

[bmugwump]

Just a reminder to once again look at post #55 on this thread! We really need to reach the minimum order of 40 before the ordering deadline....and we need your response & registration to do it! Haven't some of you guys been waiting for a Birdshot shirt?

[bmugwump]

Only four people pre-registered so far...and they're all Birdshot staff!:confused: This is going to be a good one, folks....we even have a remote possibility of a World Champion showing up! We put a bug in his ear anyway....of course, if people look & see nobody signed up yet they might decide not to bother. Please go ahead & sign up, order a shirt, come out for doubles & the party at Gulf Greyhound Park on Friday....and get your grip on to check out where States will be next spring!

[ThePatrick]

We have had other people than birdshot staff order them.

[ThePatrick]

We've had our first two volunteers step up. Anyone not playing but that can help for any part of the day would be greatly appreciated. This is shaping up to be the biggest Birdshot tourney ever and we could use any help that you are willing to throw our way. Hopefully you guys are as excited as we are and remember to not wait too long to sign up. We have an excellent refund policy so sign up now. We should be close to another sizable ace pot by then, and with the Gulf meadows course you know that you want a good chance at that ace money!

[ChingLizard]

Only four people pre-registered so far...and they're all Birdshot staff!:confused: This is going to be a good one, folks....we even have a remote possibility of a World Champion showing up! We put a bug in his ear anyway....of course, if people look & see nobody signed up yet they might decide not to bother. Please go ahead & sign up, order a shirt, come out for doubles & the party at Gulf Greyhound Park on Friday....and get your grip on to check out where States will be next spring!

I hope that isn't true Billy...I registered online via your website over a week ago. What's up with that?

[ThePatrick]

I hope that isn't true Billy...I registered online via your website over a week ago. What's up with that?

We gotcha Larry. I just got back from USDGC and Tiff was swamped at work, but we'll be back on top this week. Spread the word guys. Let's start filling this thing up. Sorry for all the MA2 division i won't be donating money, just my time to this one.

[ThePatrick]

This is in no way meant to be rude, but how many tournaments have you played outside of Houston that aren't C-Tiers?

It's pretty common to see scores posted by lunchtime at larger events. Everyone wants to know their round rating and start planning for the next round.

Dynamic Discs. Check out one of their events ASAP and I promise, your perspective as a player and TD will change drastically.

So... Tom has scores up from today's College Station tourney, but neither Waterloo or Bud Series from Corpus has either of the first two rounds up right now. So we're somewhere in the middle with Tom i guess. I would have to say that the Bud Series in Corpus and Waterloo are two of the bigger tournies in the area.

[ChaseTheAce]

So... Tom has scores up from today's College Station tourney, but neither Waterloo or Bud Series from Corpus has either of the first two rounds up right now. So we're somewhere in the middle with Tom i guess. I would have to say that the Bud Series in Corpus and Waterloo are two of the bigger tournies in the area.

yea, i wanted to check scores for both of those and neither were posted.

I have no idea who is running the Bud Series, but I'm not surprsied with the scores not being posted for Waterloo. Half the people playing probably don't even check a computer daily.

[SAUCERSLINGER]

I'm not surprsied with the scores not being posted for Waterloo. Half the people playing probably don't even check a computer daily.

Oooh burn! I heard they just wait for the results to be mailed in with their AARP member benefits.:D

[ChaseTheAce]

Oooh burn! I heard they just wait for the results to be mailed in with their AARP member benefits.:D

high five:D

[ThePatrick]

So Tiff, Chuck, and I walked the courses through on Sunday. They are looking great with all the hard work from the area guys. The old course is going to have a couple of tweaks to get better tee areas, a little more challenge on a couple of holes to raise the score separation, and for safety reasons. The bridges on the new course are awesome and will really help if the weather is bad. (hopefully not, so fingers crossed everyone) Don't forget to pick up a Birdshot Dri-fit shirt at the reduced price when you register. We may or may not even have these available at the tourney for sale, so make sure to add it to your registration. They are the same awesome material and brand that the TX States shirts were this year. You know that registrations are going to start pouring in right after MacGregor this weekend, so don't get stuck not playing this. Register early and tell all your friends and even those you don't like so your field will be bigger. 144 person field so let everyone know. It will make the tourney that much more memorable.
We are working on a host hotel and will release that info as soon as we have it.

Don't forget that we are offering a free Dri-fit shirt to anyone who brings us two tee sponsors. This is where the community steps up and supports it own. Let's show these other TX guys what Houston can do as a group. Let's remind them why we have the biggest TX tourney of the year.

[ChingLizard]

...so when are we going to see a current reg. list up for Double Barrel???

[ThePatrick]

...so when are we going to see a current reg. list up for Double Barrel???

When Waterloo posts their results. Sorry that one was too easy. Tiff should get to it tomorrow night. Today is her long day at work. Don't worry we got you.

[ChingLizard]

Heh-heh-heh...

I wouldn't be holding my breath too long...remind me when we next see each other and I'll tell you a couple of stories about "issues" at the scoring table there...

Suffice it to say that Double Barrel is a whole different class than Waterloo.

I heard from Nez that Texas States was selected as an NT event again...probably not the best of years to designate it as an NT with an entirely new crew at the helm, but I'm sure a lot of folks are going to be a lot more curious about the Brooks courses now.

[DPdiscer]

What? New crew at the helm? What if the old crew wants to help. I know I'm still considered new crew, but we need all the veterans to help out. Just have some Brooks Boys sprinkled in with the rest of the old crew.

[ChrisMacG]

What? New crew at the helm? What if the old crew wants to help. I know I'm still considered new crew, but we need all the veterans to help out. Just have some Brooks Boys sprinkled in with the rest of the old crew.

As long as the crew is motley.

With Texas States being selected as a NT event we all need to try to free up a weekend to get out to Brooks and help out. There's a lot of work that we need to do out there to get the course ready for the national spotlight. Let's get it done.

[ThePatrick]

Teeboxes... that's all i'm saying. New baskets would be nice as well... but that's a little much.

Please watch the video that Joe referenced in the other thread. It is a great piece with sound bites on how the Vibram Open has gotten to be such a sought after tourney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqi4kv0Ul2w

[TBender]

I heard from Nez that Texas States was selected as an NT event again...

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Suemac]

As long as the crew is motley.

With Texas States being selected as a NT event we all need to try to free up a weekend to get out to Brooks and help out. There's a lot of work that we need to do out there to get the course ready for the national spotlight. Let's get it done.

A couple of weekends will be in order...........maybe not have a monthly event in March of next year...........

[ThePatrick]

A couple of weekends will be in order...........maybe not have a monthly event in March of next year...........

If you look back at this years schedule we did just that. We do try to pay attention to those things.

[ChaseTheAce]

Is this where you suggest that he play more out of town tourney's and some DD one's especially? I suggest you should sign up for Brooks this week and buy a couple of shirts so that we can do our part to act like DD. I expect to see your paypal tomorrow at the latest.

i like the shirt, but $20 is steep... you know, DD does dri-fits two for $30;)

is there a list to see whether or not i have qualified for the extra cash at Brooks?

[ThePatrick]

Chase I'm bringing the qualified discussion back over here. I will at least have a list at MacG on Saturday. Have you played five events? If yes then you are qualified.

[ChaseTheAce]

Chase I'm bringing the qualified discussion back over here. I will at least have a list at MacG on Saturday. Have you played five events? If yes then you are qualified.

yea i think so

why is my font below in red? i didn't do dat

[ChrisMacG]

i like the shirt, but $20 is steep... you know, DD does dri-fits two for $30;)

Birdshot has a no-sweat-shop policy. We also didn't go for the cheap dry-fit shirts; we went with Champion. On top of all that, the shirts are to raise funds for the players pack and payout at Brooks, so are you complaining or shooting yourself in the foot?

Birdshot is a volunteer group folks, we're not selling shirts for us, we're selling them for the players who play in our tourneys.

[ChaseTheAce]

Birdshot has a no-sweat-shop policy. We also didn't go for the cheap dry-fit shirts; we went with Champion. On top of all that, the shirts are to raise funds for the players pack and payout at Brooks, so are you complaining or shooting yourself in the foot?

Birdshot is a volunteer group folks, we're not selling shirts for us, we're selling them for the players who play in our tourneys.

glad you could detect some sarcasm in our posts. patrick was harassing me for posting twice about how awesome DD events are. nice burn though:)

when were the boards not for complaining? that's all anyone does on here so i just follow suit

btw, i have every intent of buying a shirt, so i'll go ahead and put the gun away for now

[ChingLizard]

Birdshot has a no-sweat-shop policy. We also didn't go for the cheap dry-fit shirts; we went with Champion. On top of all that, the shirts are to raise funds for the players pack and payout at Brooks, so are you complaining or shooting yourself in the foot?

Birdshot is a volunteer group folks, we're not selling shirts for us, we're selling them for the players who play in our tourneys.

uhhh...what is that "no-sweat-shop policy" stuff about?

Does that mean that these shirts aren't made by 12 year-old kids in a Chinese labor camp?

I'd probably be interested in checking out one of those shirts, but I'd want to look at it before I buy one. I've gotten a couple of really good ones and I've gotten a couple of poor ones that didn't work very well. I hope there will still be some available when I get there.

[ThePatrick]

I'd probably be interested in checking out one of those shirts, but I'd want to look at it before I buy one. I've gotten a couple of really good ones and I've gotten a couple of poor ones that didn't work very well. I hope there will still be some available when I get there.
We won't have them until right before the tourny, but if you have a tx states shirt I believe this year's, it is the same Champion brand.

[ChrisMacG]

I'd probably be interested in checking out one of those shirts, but I'd want to look at it before I buy one. I've gotten a couple of really good ones and I've gotten a couple of poor ones that didn't work very well. I hope there will still be some available when I get there.

The shirts will be Champion performance shirts and we're getting Suemac to make them (she's neither 12 nor Chinese). Top quality product and a top quality craftsperson.

There will not be any shirts available for sale at Double Barrel at Jack Brooks. This is a pre-event fundraiser only. The only way to get a shirt is to order one in the next two days.

You can order one on the Birdshot website, or you can order one tomorrow at the tournament at MacGregor. After that, you'll have missed out.

Shirts are $20, proceeds go towards player's packs and payout at Brooks.

[ERicJ]

Shirts are $20, proceeds go towards player's packs and payout at Brooks.

Will the proceeds from a player's shirt purchase stay in their own division?

[ThePatrick]

Will the proceeds from a player's shirt purchase stay in their own division?

We haven't decided but enjoy the players pack that we are working on covering 100% of and your 100% payout in your division (not 100%after players packs are deducted). Sorry we haven't had anyone take us up on our offer to get a free shirt for bringing in two hole sponsorships or we may could have added cash into the am divisions I guess. I mean that's what you were asking for right? Maybe you should sign up first :)

[ERicJ]

Maybe you should sign up first :)
Gotta wait to see what my new rating will be next week... and where all the bonus money is going....

[ChrisMacG]

Gotta wait to see what my new rating will be next week... and where all the bonus money is going....

You'll miss out on the shirt if you wait until next week.

[LOU18132]

Gotta wait to see what my new rating will be next week... and where all the bonus money is going....

That should be easy enough to figure out beforehand. Shouldn't it?:eek:

[ThePatrick]

That should be easy enough to figure out beforehand. Shouldn't it?:eek:

Especially for Eric. We can easily move you to adv if your rating gets 4 points higher. You know Ma2 will have the most ams anyway.

[ERicJ]

Gotta wait to see what my new rating will be next week... and where all the bonus money is going....That should be easy enough to figure out beforehand. Shouldn't it?:eek:

Ratings: Not really when you're talking about a margin of a few points. The unofficial ratings usually change by a few points up or down when released as official.

Bonus $: Pool total depends partly on how many people play which divisions at MacGregor. But also the allocation of the total pool depends on the number of qualified players signing up at Brooks and their distribution across the divisions at Brooks.

Especially for Eric. We can easily move you to adv if your rating gets 4 points higher. You know Ma2 will have the most ams anyway.

You know I tried to figure out the bonus money stuff long beforehand. ;)

[griff]

just a suggestion, rj is running a mini at brooks on oct 31, 10 am , old course i believe. any chance sum of the birdshot guys might get with him for a possibility of playin the modified course we'll be playin' at double barrell?

[DPdiscer]

I can email RJ how we are planning on moving some of the tee boxes at Gulf Meadows. I will be out of town next weekend.

[bmugwump]

Griff...I saw RJ yesterday out there....he's planning on doing a "monster" nine again! I'll be at PYMWYMI...Chuck's visiting his dad...and even if we were in town I wouldn't want to tell RJ how to run his mini! I see your point, though....maybe a few of us can get together out there the following weekend & play a casual round wherever the boxes are going to be. I don't even know....Tiff is TD & met Chuck out there a couple of weeks ago to do an evaluation & hash that stuff out. If they are anything like what we did with league out there this year, some of the holes won't change at all...others will be moved further back from where they are now, some way further back. There shouldn't be any that are going from a new tee to a completely different basket though! Again....this is Tiff's baby & we'll have to wait & see what she says....

[Whosnext]

Sorry if this has already been answered I dont feel like reading all 10 pages of post's. Is the third course that will be at states going to be used at the Double Barrel? Cause that would be cool. We could just not play the original course since thats been around for ever. Even though I love that course. :) That would give us locals a little advantages look you know.

[ChrisMacG]

Sorry if this has already been answered I dont feel like reading all 10 pages of post's. Is the third course that will be at states going to be used at the Double Barrel? Cause that would be cool. We could just not play the original course since thats been around for ever. Even though I love that course. :) That would give us locals a little advantages look you know.

Double Barrel is just using the two courses at the park. We will have some modifications to the tee box locations as Billy said, but none of the changes are too drastic. For the most part we just want to find better ground for tees than the ruts that are out there now.

[griff]

Griff...I saw RJ yesterday out there....he's planning on doing a "monster" nine again! I'll be at PYMWYMI...Chuck's visiting his dad...and even if we were in town I wouldn't want to tell RJ how to run his mini! I see your point, though....maybe a few of us can get together out there the following weekend & play a casual round wherever the boxes are going to be. I don't even know....Tiff is TD & met Chuck out there a couple of weeks ago to do an evaluation & hash that stuff out. If they are anything like what we did with league out there this year, some of the holes won't change at all...others will be moved further back from where they are now, some way further back. There shouldn't be any that are going from a new tee to a completely different basket though! Again....this is Tiff's baby & we'll have to wait & see what she says....
i'll be at moodys,now that i think about it.

[griff]

.and even if we were in town I wouldn't want to tell RJ how to run his mini! I see your point, though....maybe a few of us can get together out there the following weekend & play a casual round wherever the boxes are going to be. .
great idea, my friend.

[BossJay]

Is there any way we can see the updated points for the BCS before Brooks?

[ThePatrick]

Is there any way we can see the updated points for the BCS before Brooks?

They are based on your rating at the first birdshot tourny you played this year, not what division you play. Fyi

[BossJay]

They are based on your rating at the first birdshot tourny you played this year, not what division you play. Fyi

I know that buddy. What i'm saying is that they have not been updated since the Windwood tourny on the Birdshot website.

[ChrisMacG]

I know that buddy. What i'm saying is that they have not been updated since the Windwood tourny on the Birdshot website.

That'd be my fault. I'm trying to find the latest file and will update shortly.

In my defense, Chuck produces more Excel files than humanly possible.

[BossJay]

Thank you sir.

[DPdiscer]

The BCS Standings have been sabatoged by ERic's macros. Just another one of his viruses. :eek:

[ChrisMacG]

The BCS Standings have been sabatoged by ERic's macros. Just another one of his viruses. :eek:

I blame Steve Jobs.

[ERicJ]

The BCS Standings have been sabatoged by ERic's macros. Just another one of his viruses. :eek:
My copy of the file I sent you still loads/runs fine with or without the macro enabled. Gotta be PEBCAK.

[bmugwump]

ATTENTION ALL PLAYERS! We're going to have a work day this Saturday at Brooks in preparation for the tourney the following week...plan on being there by 8 AM please! A lot of work has already been done (thanks Cody & Boo!) so we should be able to knock things out in the morning, have a little lunch & then play some flip-dubs (probably at Cedar Hills)...the winning team players each will get a performance shirt (when they come in!). The main things we'll be doing are picking up limbs & trash on the fairways & any last minute trimming around tees and/or baskets. We could go ahead & do any flagging that needs to be done in the woods (not on the open holes in case they mow next week) and/or stringing for OB's & that sort of thing. Depending on how many people show up, at lunch time I can collect a buck or two from everyone & go pick up some pizza at Little Ceasars...then we can play the doubles like I was talking about. If you're playing the event & don't have to be anywhere else this Saturday...PLEASE COME JOIN US!!! I guess we can meet initially at the parking lot for Gulf Meadows & then spread out from there...come on out & help us to make this event one of the best ever for Birdshot!

[ERicJ]

Catered lunch from Boondoggles available.

What does a $7 lunch fee get ya?

[bmugwump]

A very nice sub sandwich (either Italian or Turkey I believe), chips and drink...slightly more than Subway & slightly less than Quizno's (and, I'm sure, better!). I can vouch for their brick-oven pizza...I'm sure the sandwiches are good also! The manager there is a player...I'm sure they'll do us up right!

[ChrisMacG]

A very nice sub sandwich (either Italian or Turkey I believe), chips and drink...slightly more than Subway & slightly less than Quizno's (and, I'm sure, better!). I can vouch for their brick-oven pizza...I'm sure the sandwiches are good also! The manager there is a player...I'm sure they'll do us up right!

There's a cookie in there too.

[Keith H]

im anxious to see what the details are for the dog track ctp and other field events. along with the doubles format/times. etc
need to see if ill be able to make the doubles and if so, find a partner

no rush, just had to get it off my chest. its raining, so i cant practice

this info might be whats holding others up to sign up

[griff]

ATTENTION ALL PLAYERS! We're going to have a work day this Saturday at Brooks in preparation for the tourney the following week...plan on being there by 8 AM please! A lot of work has already been done (thanks Cody & Boo!) so we should be able to knock things out in the morning, have a little lunch & then play some flip-dubs (probably at Cedar Hills)...the winning team players each will get a performance shirt (when they come in!). The main things we'll be doing are picking up limbs & trash on the fairways & any last minute trimming around tees and/or baskets. We could go ahead & do any flagging that needs to be done in the woods (not on the open holes in case they mow next week) and/or stringing for OB's & that sort of thing. Depending on how many people show up, at lunch time I can collect a buck or two from everyone & go pick up some pizza at Little Ceasars...then we can play the doubles like I was talking about. If you're playing the event & don't have to be anywhere else this Saturday...PLEASE COME JOIN US!!! I guess we can meet initially at the parking lot for Gulf Meadows & then spread out from there...come on out & help us to make this event one of the best ever for Birdshot! 8am??jk, i'll b thr

[ChrisMacG]

im anxious to see what the details are for the dog track ctp and other field events.

The dog track CTP is mostly a demonstration of disc golf for the folks attending the dog races. We're not going to have a big prize for the winner at this point, maybe just a Birdshot CFR disc or two. Still, you'll be able to drive over the pond in front of hundreds of gamblers and who wants to pass that up?

The folks who throw will be selected from the folks who show up at the party. I believe we're going to have room for at least ten players, possibly more. We've tried to find a sponsor for the CTP at the track but finding sponsors this year for anything has been an uphill battle.

[Smokin' Joe]

The dog track CTP is mostly a demonstration of disc golf for the folks attending the dog races. We're not going to have a big prize for the winner at this point, maybe just a Birdshot CFR disc or two. Still, you'll be able to drive over the pond in front of hundreds of gamblers and who wants to pass that up?

The folks who throw will be selected from the folks who show up at the party. I believe we're going to have room for at least ten players, possibly more. We've tried to find a sponsor for the CTP at the track but finding sponsors this year for anything has been an uphill battle.

You guys should treat this like a football game, where you'd throw discs INTO the stands. :p

[ChrisMacG]

You guys should treat this like a football game, where you'd throw discs INTO the stands. :p

The stands at the track are indoors and air conditioned so we'd just be throwing at windows. There's an outdoor seating area too, but not too many stands.

[Smokin' Joe]

The stands at the track are indoors and air conditioned so we'd just be throwing at windows. There's an outdoor seating area too, but not too many stands.

OH yeah, forgot about that. I've been picturing the horse track! :o

[Keith H]

The dog track CTP is mostly a demonstration of disc golf for the folks attending the dog races. We're not going to have a big prize for the winner at this point, maybe just a Birdshot CFR disc or two. Still, you'll be able to drive over the pond in front of hundreds of gamblers and who wants to pass that up?

The folks who throw will be selected from the folks who show up at the party. I believe we're going to have room for at least ten players, possibly more. We've tried to find a sponsor for the CTP at the track but finding sponsors this year for anything has been an uphill battle.

i dont want prizes i just wanna throw far
and has the distance been set yet? im good for 400 i know thats crap but gimme a break ive only been playing 5 months!

i will be at the party!

also my girlfriend is a horrible caddy (walking away when im trying to get discs...etc...) so i mentioned offering to help you guys. she is hard workin, and we both plan on volunteering for the masters at shawshank. so i figured this might be a good time to get her feet wet

thanks for everything ya'll do, this is my first, but so far from what ive read about past tourney's im in for a good time

[ChaseTheAce]

i dont want prizes i just wanna throw far
and has the distance been set yet? im good for 400 i know thats crap but gimme a break ive only been playing 5 months!

i will be at the party!

also my girlfriend is a horrible caddy (walking away when im trying to get discs...etc...) so i mentioned offering to help you guys. she is hard workin, and we both plan on volunteering for the masters at shawshank. so i figured this might be a good time to get her feet wet

thanks for everything ya'll do, this is my first, but so far from what ive read about past tourney's im in for a good time

lol. most people who have been playing for years haven't even developed the ability to throw 400 ft. if that's accurate then you must be learning very quickly

[bmugwump]

I know that's right....I wish I could throw 400 feet!!!:( And typically people always wait til the last couple of days to sign up...not sure why all the time, but it always happens! We only have 34 pre-registered (aside from PayPals coming in today which should be posted soon) so we've got PLENTY of room for everybody....since we've got both courses we can utilize we can have as many as 126 players (I think!), so tell your friends here in H-town & those of you reading this in Austin & elsewhere to come on down! I don't think it's gonna fill (that would be nice, but let's be real...we're not Double D!) but you should still pre-register to save the day-of fee...and don't forget about the party at Gulf Greyhound Park Friday nite & doubles Friday afternoon! Hey, it's only a week away now...let's do it!

[derek]

I know that's right....I wish I could throw 400 feet!!!:( And typically people always wait til the last couple of days to sign up...not sure why all the time, but it always happens! We only have 34 pre-registered (aside from PayPals coming in today which should be posted soon) so we've got PLENTY of room for everybody....since we've got both courses we can utilize we can have as many as 126 players (I think!), so tell your friends here in H-town & those of you reading this in Austin & elsewhere to come on down! I don't think it's gonna fill (that would be nice, but let's be real...we're not Double D!) but you should still pre-register to save the day-of fee...and don't forget about the party at Gulf Greyhound Park Friday nite & doubles Friday afternoon! Hey, it's only a week away now...let's do it!

They are waiting to see the weather forecast :D

[griff]

ATTENTION ALL PLAYERS! We're going to have a work day this Saturday at Brooks in preparation for the tourney the following week...plan on being there by 8 AM please! A lot of work has already been done (thanks Cody & Boo!) so we should be able to knock things out in the morning, have a little lunch & then play some flip-dubs (probably at Cedar Hills)...the winning team players each will get a performance shirt (when they come in!). The main things we'll be doing are picking up limbs & trash on the fairways & any last minute trimming around tees and/or baskets. We could go ahead & do any flagging that needs to be done in the woods (not on the open holes in case they mow next week) and/or stringing for OB's & that sort of thing. Depending on how many people show up, at lunch time I can collect a buck or two from everyone & go pick up some pizza at Little Ceasars...then we can play the doubles like I was talking about. If you're playing the event & don't have to be anywhere else this Saturday...PLEASE COME JOIN US!!! I guess we can meet initially at the parking lot for Gulf Meadows & then spread out from there...come on out & help us to make this event one of the best ever for Birdshot!
i read in another thread something about a tc jester mini on the same day, postponed?

[griff]

i read in another thread something about a tc jester mini on the same day, postponed?nevermind, i read on in the thread, i'll be at brooks sat. morning, but will there be a mini at tc j anytime soon?

[ThePatrick]

nevermind, i read on in the thread, i'll be at brooks sat. morning, but will there be a mini at tc j anytime soon?
No... Jester blew up and leaving on Brooks to play. Focus on that.

[bmugwump]

nevermind, i read on in the thread, i'll be at brooks sat. morning, but will there be a mini at tc j anytime soon?Chuck is meeting with Larry Kruse to walk the possible expansion for Jester....if all goes well, we hope to have a mini there next year with the expanded holes. Last mini of the series will be November 20th....a "Monster Nine" at Moffitt co-designed by Jack Camp!

[ChrisMacG]

Big thanks to everyone who came out for the work day. The back half of Gulf Meadows has a big overhaul with 5 new tee boxes and a more-root-free tee on 18. Both courses show the results of a lot of effort out at Brooks. Great work everyone.

After a pizza lunch we played Gulf Meadows flip doubles and Chris Vandagriff and Jake Walsdorf won the shirts with a -8 for Griff and Bubba Berry and Jake and Steve Du Frane took -7. After that round finished we played a casual round at Cedar Hills until it was too dark.

[ChingLizard]

I want to thank everyone involved for all of the hard work being done down there! I am very grateful to get to be playing on the results of everyone's efforts. Thank you!!!


I can't wait to get another crack at the new course again! :o

Larry

[kylejenkins]

I got to play Cedar Hill & half of Gulf Meadows today... The courses are looking amazing, and played even better than I remembered. Probably due to all the effort being put in by volunteers!

I'm starting to get super-excited for the tournament next weekend.

[ThePatrick]

Alright, so to condense everything before this....
good workday...course looking good...money.... plenty of spots. Cool players pack, and get a preview of next years States courses.

Sign up... Sign up.... sign up....sign up... now it's stuck in your head like a bad pop song and the only way to get rid of it is to sign up... or egg Eric Jubin's house. (or sign up)

[DPdiscer]

Another pop song in my head right now that I can't get rid of. Sponsor... Sponsor... Sponsor.... Sponsor. We are roughly about $400 short of meeting our expenses for this tournament and everybody has been working hard to drum some up. A big thanks to all of you that already have. We appreciate your generosity. If you would like everybody including yourself (if you play) to see your company or personal name beside a tee box or on a water cooler, in the program, and on the Birdshot website, we are approaching last call for sponsorship to get in the program. None of us in Birdshot/DGC like to ask for money, but we know that the Houston Disc Golf community would like a B tier or two out of us each year like the other tournament organizations in the state. Please help us put on a big show out at Brooks. I'm still curious to see what my sign is going to look like at Gulf Meadows #10 water cooler. Probably be me taking a big swig of DP.

[ChrisMacG]

This weekend we went out and collected GPS data for each of the 36 tees and baskets at Brooks. We now have accurate distances for the new tees on Gulf Meadows and the full Cedar Hills Course.

Here's the Gulf Meadows Course (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106217650621023492401.0004947cff6388be17e6e&ll=29.367319,-95.042027&spn=0.006554,0.012177&t=k&z=17). Note that #7 tee is for Double Barrel only. All the rest of the new tees are going to be permanent. :D

Here's the Cedar Hill's Course (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&t=k&msa=0&msid=106217650621023492401.0004947e3d9ad25e3bf3e&ll=29.361825,-95.038873&spn=0.003277,0.006089&z=18). I used a different method for computing the no-line-of-site holes (#2 & #7) than previously used. The physical tee to basket distance for these holes are 167.5' for #2 and 415.5' for #7.

I've updated the DGCR pages with the new distances. New maps are also on the way.

Oh yeah, also, sponsor a hole at this event, or a water cooler. Seriously folks, we need to get some more holes sold.

[ThePatrick]

All right.... so if your name is listed below you should really consider signing up as you are qualified for bonus cash:

Andi Young
Andy Wright
AnthonyMengarelli
Bart Taylor
Bill Hardmant
Billy Gilbert
Chase Pruitt
Chris Vandagriff
Chuck Conaway
CJ Hopper
Cody Carothers
David Curry
DollaBillThomason
Don Young
Ed Morgan
Edward Gardere
Eric Jubin
Jeremy Bastian
Justin Ellsworth
Kyle Jenkins
Lance Steck
Lesli Trahan
Marty Berry
Matt Hall
Mike Arellano
Neal Martinez
Patrick Brogdon
Rick Hopper
Sam Price
TiffanyBrogdon
TJ Straub
Tom Yocky
Tony Bender
Travis Greenway

[ERicJ]

Here's the Cedar Hill's Course (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&t=k&msa=0&msid=106217650621023492401.0004947e3d9ad25e3bf3e&ll=29.361825,-95.038873&spn=0.003277,0.006089&z=18).
Please say that "Hole 17 Mando" should really be "Hole 17 DZ".

[ThePatrick]

Please say that "Hole 17 Mando" should really be "Hole 17 DZ".

Yes. It's the drop zone. It's the one over the lily pad pond.

[ChrisMacG]

Please say that "Hole 17 Mando" should really be "Hole 17 DZ".

Thanks for the QA. I've updated the map.

[ChrisMacG]

This morning I looked at the weather for Saturday and the forecast has improved considerably. Friday's chance of rain has dropped to only 40% from 70% and Saturday has gone from a 60% chance of thunderstorms to a forecast of partly cloudy.

It does look like it will rain on Friday so make sure you've got the right footwear. Parts of Brooks can get soggy, or muddy, after a big rain. Birdshot is going to have some knotted ropes installed on Cedar Hills to help on the hills.

So, if you were waiting to see how the weather was shaping up before signing up get to it.

[ChrisMacG]

Patrick and I finally had a chance to finish nailing down the rules for the doubles round on Friday. We've decided to play dubs only on Gulf Meadows to leave Cedar Hills open for folks who want to practices that course. We feel this will be a better set-up for players who will come out on Friday.

Friday Doubles Information!


Dubs on Gulf Meadows.
Three divisions: Rec, Int, Pro. Divisions must have 4 competing teams or you will move up.
$10 entry fee per player. Top 50% paid. Payout at lunch on Saturday.
Sign-up starts at 10:30am at the Highland Pavilion (located by basket #7 on Gulf Meadows) and ends at 3pm.
All score cards must be turned in by 5:30pm (sunset is at 5:27pm)

We hope everyone will be able to make it down to Hitchcock on Friday for the doubles.

[ChingLizard]

Well...the only reason I would want to play doubles is to be able to play it on the new Cedar Hills course before the tourney.

If others feel similarly about playing CH, it seems like you will be having a pretty low turnout for the doubles gig...maybe the locals down there are tired of playing the new course (or it isn't such a novelty for them) and so maybe they'll be the doubles candidates.

I'll be seeing you on Saturday morning.

[bmugwump]

On the contrary, Larry....most of the locals don't LIKE to play the new course because of the difficulty level I guess. I'm not saying everybody, but most of the casual-don't-see-them-at-tourneys people stay away like it's cursed or something!:p Yes, it kicks my ass regularly...but I still enjoy the challenge of the course & it helps me to learn to be a better player! Doubles will go much quicker on the old course, though....

[ThePatrick]

If everyone wants to play C Hills I'm okay with it, but I will be hard to finish before dark and there are new teebox locations for almost half of gulf meadows. We were thinking that people would want to practice cedar hills and maybe keeping dubs on gulf meadows would keep traffic off for people to practice.

[bmugwump]

By the way...we're not near as short on meeting expenses as Chuck thought we were....he's got too many spreadsheets dancing in his head!:D Everything's falling into place to make this one of the best Birdshot events yet, so come on out & get you some this weekend! I have faith in the Birdshot weather luck...the rain will be a done deal by Saturday! It might be a little muddy, but I believe the rain will be gone after Friday afternoon! Weather & disc golf gods, please let me be right!:rolleyes:

[griff]

and there are new teebox locations for almost half of gulf meadows. .
the new teebox locations have made gulf meadows a very different course, new looks at the pin, new distance, some totally different lines. i would recommend players get a look at it before sat.

[ChaseTheAce]

which course does Open and MA1 play in the morning?

[ThePatrick]

which course does Open and MA1 play in the morning?

Depends on field size but we're leaning towards gulf meadows first for Pros.

[griff]

Depends on field size but we're leaning towards gulf meadows first for Pros.makes sense, prolly take a little longer for the other divisions to play cedar hills.

[Keith H]

what time will things kick off at the dog track? i wont make it in time for the doubles after work but i do want to at least peek at the courses before the party.

[ThePatrick]

what time will things kick off at the dog track? i wont make it in time for the doubles after work but i do want to at least peek at the courses before the party.

We are still working out details with them and will post as soon as we have something.

[JimKelly]

What are the details for the putting contest?

[Smokin' Joe]

What are the details for the putting contest?

The one who makes the most putts, WINS! :rolleyes:

[ChaseTheAce]

What are the details for the putting contest?

I've heard from a few sources that Ricky Wysocki from Worlds will be in attendance to defend his title :p

[Throw Innova]

As long as no junior girls show up, my money is on Jim.

[Smokin' Joe]

As long as no junior girls show up, my money is on Jim.

Will the local high school be in attendance? :eek:

[griff]

What's the deal with bonus payout?

[bettercounsel]

FYI

Birdshot will be collecting discs for Lanier Middle School Disc Golf Club. Please donate your used old discs. Mostly light-weight drivers and midrange discs (150g to 165g) are preferred. Putters can be full weight. (170+g). Also, any old putters you can donate would be greatly appreciated.

There are 23 students, and it would be :) and :cool: if the Disc Golf Community could donate enough drivers, mid and putter discs for 23 students.

[ThePatrick]

What's the deal with bonus payout?

Yu mean you've gone the whole season and don't know the policy?

[JimKelly]

As long as no junior girls show up, my money is on Jim.

Hey now, as long as they don't break out the boxes...:)

[griff]

Yu mean you've gone the whole season and don't know the policy?just kinda assumed its like all other bonus payouts, then i saw how team justice changed theirs. and yes, thats wut i mean.

[griff]

Hey now, as long as they don't break out the boxes...:) just dont miss your first putt, jim.

[ERicJ]

Yu mean you've gone the whole season and don't know the policy?
Some people will find that funnier than others.

[ChaseTheAce]

Yu mean you've gone the whole season and don't know the policy?

that has to be the most unhelpful response from a TD I've ever heard...

[ChrisMacG]

What's the deal with bonus payout?

Ahem, click here (http://houstonbirdshot.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=67:2010-bcs-guidelines&catid=49:birdshot-championship-series&Itemid=139). It's been online since April.

[Throw Innova]

What are the standings in regards to the bonus payout? (I think this is what he was asking)

What sort of money is added to each division?

What are the updated BCS points standings?

[ThePatrick]

that has to be the most unhelpful response from a TD I've ever heard...

I'm not the td. Unless it it transmitted through bodily contact but I'm pretty sure that an "STD" not a TD

[bmugwump]

Patrick, you have been nipping at the rat cheese again, haven't you! ATTENTION EVERYONE THINKING ABOUT FRIDAY NITE AT GULF GREYHOUND PARK!!!!!! Just in case some of you have been making plans, there is the possibility that the Friday night party at the dog track may be cancelled due to logistical problems...also it might be raining & not too many folks like to go gambling in the rain! We'll find out by this evening & let everyone know on this thread by tomorrow....DOUBLES IS STILL ON THOUGH!!!! Rain or shine!!!

[bmugwump]

What are the standings in regards to the bonus payout? (I think this is what he was asking)

What sort of money is added to each division?

What are the updated BCS points standings?
First of all, please see post #131 in this thread to see who is qualified to receive bonus payout....as CFO, I can tell you that during the series this year the players paid in $771 in series fees. Patrick will have the breakdown at the tournament...only a couple of open players made the cut & they, of course, will get cash....the rest of the players who qualified will get more on their DGC vouchers than those who did not. People like me, for instance, who made every tourney will get a little bit more than those who only made five, six, etc. Sorry I don't have the spreadsheet to post here....

[ThePatrick]

First of all, please see post #131 in this thread to see who is qualified to receive bonus payout....as CFO, I can tell you that during the series this year the players paid in $771 in series fees. Patrick will have the breakdown at the tournament...only a couple of open players made the cut & they, of course, will get cash....the rest of the players who qualified will get more on their DGC vouchers than those who did not. People like me, for instance, who made every tourney will get a little bit more than those who only made five, six, etc. Sorry I don't have the spreadsheet to post here....

It depends on how you finish at the finale as to your bonus cash. To qualify you had to play 5 birdshot tournaments this season.

[ChingLizard]

well...it looks like I'll be getting to go after Mr. Camp this Saturday! I haven't gone head-to-head against Jack in quite a while. It should be a good challenge for me as I haven't beaten him very often.

Maybe I could try the Tonya Harding technique on one of his knees. :eek:

Sure am looking forward to playing some competitive disc golf in the pounding rain we're gonna be getting. :D Now I've just gotta remember where I stashed those waterproof socks...

[bmugwump]

Hey Larry, don't count me out on my home course!;)

[ChrisMacG]

ATTENTION EVERYONE THINKING ABOUT FRIDAY NITE AT GULF GREYHOUND PARK!!!!!!

I just got off the phone with Gulf Greyhound and the logistical issues have been taken care of. We are on for Friday night and we will be having a CTP over the pond between races. Here is the scoop you need to know to join in the fun:



Friday night at Gulf Greyhound Park - doors open at 6pm, races start at 7pm.
Tell the folks at the ticket counter that you are there for the Birdshot party and your entrance will be FREE. :D
Bring your wives, bring your husbands, bring your kids. This is a family friendly event up in here.
GGP has a good dinner menu (http://gulfgreyhound.com/IndoorOutdoorGroupEventsMenus.aspx?Page=3) so you don't need to eat before you arrive.
There will be a putting demonstration area inside the club house and we'd love it if you would help show folks what disc golf is about.
We will be throwing a CTP over the pond in the center of the track between some of the races. The CTP will be for demonstration only however Birdshot does have a nice ace prize for someone if they hit and ace.
If you want to throw the CTP:

Bring your own disc. Put your name on it if you want it back from the pond (may take a week to get it back to you).
For visibility, bring a bright or light colored disc.
Sign-up with me either at Doubles or at GGP to participate.
CTP distance will be between 300' & 350'
400 to 700 folks will be watching you throw. No pressure. :eek:

No official betting on the CTP will be offered. :p

Any questions?

[Suemac]

I just got off the phone with Gulf Greyhound and the logistical issues have been taken care of. We are on for Friday night and we will be having a CTP over the pond between races. Here is the scoop you need to know to join in the fun:



Friday night at Gulf Greyhound Park - doors open at 6pm, races start at 7pm.
Tell the folks at the ticket counter that you are there for the Birdshot party and your entrance will be FREE.
Bring your wives, bring your husbands, bring your kids. This is a family friendly event up in here.

GGP has a good dinner menu (http://gulfgreyhound.com/IndoorOutdoorGroupEventsMenus.aspx?Page=3) so you don't need to eat before you arrive.
There will be a putting demonstration area inside the club house and we'd love it if you would help show folks what disc golf is about.
We will be throwing a CTP over the pond in the center of the track between some of the races. The CTP will be for demonstration only however Birdshot does have a nice ace prize for someone if they hit and ace.
If you want to throw the CTP:

Bring your own disc. Put your name on it if you want it back from the pond (may take a week to get it back to you).
For visibility, bring a bright or light colored disc.
Sign-up with me either at Doubles or at GGP to participate.
CTP distance will be between 300' & 350'
400 to 700 folks will be watching you throw. No pressure.

No official betting on the CTP will be offered. :p
Any questions?

Will there be a podcast for those of us who can't attend? ;) :D :eek: :D ;)

[Smokin' Joe]

I can't remember what channel it is, but a few years back they showed the dog races on tv. I wonder if the CTP will be aired also.

[tarazarr]

The CTP will be for demonstration only however Birdshot does have a nice ace prize for someone if they hit and ace.


Could it possibly be a groove?.....:D;):D

Sounds like an Awesome event Birdshot... Well Done!!!!

[Suemac]

Could it possibly be a groove?.....:D;):D

Sounds like an Awesome event Birdshot... Well Done!!!!

A Groove with a Monarch thrown in for good measure! :D

And yes, this looks like a great outing, wish I could attend the Friday festivities!

[bmugwump]

I'm glad this is definitely on now! Hopefully there will be a good crowd for the races and a good crowd of us Party People to turn some more people on to Disc Golf!!! Please make plans to attend...if you Nawth Side people know some South Side people, see if you can spend the night down here somewhere! Very good news that this is all coming together as planned!

[bmugwump]

Could it possibly be a groove?.....:D;):D

Sounds like an Awesome event Birdshot... Well Done!!!!
We're definitely setting aside a little cash money if someone aces it! How does $50 sound?

[ChaseTheAce]

I'm not the td. Unless it it transmitted through bodily contact but I'm pretty sure that an "STD" not a TD

"a TD" did not imply any specific TD. so are you saying that you aren't a TD at all... or that you aren't the TD from this tournament? read carefully

[ChaseTheAce]

We're definitely setting aside a little cash money if someone aces it! How does $50 sound?

how does $500 sound?

[tarazarr]

how does............... 1 million dollars sound? (with pinky in the corner of my mouth)...does it sound like ...One Milllllllllllllllllllion dollars? .. hard to get the Austin Powers sound effect from a keyboard...oh well

[Smokin' Joe]

"a TD" did not imply any specific TD. so are you saying that you aren't a TD at all... or that you aren't the TD from this tournament? read carefully

or that you have an STD? :eek: :stirthepot:

[Smokin' Joe]

how does 1 million dollars sound? (with pinky in the corner of my mouth)

Do I make you honee baby? :D:D:D

[ERicJ]

how does $500 sound?
Sounds like Chase is offering $500 for an Ace.

[ChingLizard]

Hey Larry, don't count me out on my home course!;)

I never count you out Billy! Especially on your home course! I'm planning on playing on your card on Saturday for sure! (well...unless I really tank badly...and that's a good possibility in the rain! Ha-ha!)

What time is our safety meeting?

[bmugwump]

Sounds like Chase is offering $500 for an Ace.
Saweeeeeet!!!!!:p

[bmugwump]

I never count you out Billy! Especially on your home course! I'm planning on playing on your card on Saturday for sure! (well...unless I really tank badly...and that's a good possibility in the rain! Ha-ha!)

What time is our safety meeting?We should try to have a safety meeting as soon as you get there...and will you please stop mentioning rain?!!!:D

[griff]

Ahem, click here (http://houstonbirdshot.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=67:2010-bcs-guidelines&catid=49:birdshot-championship-series&Itemid=139). It's been online since April.
why thank you kind sir!

[ChrisMacG]

Sounds like Chase is offering $500 for an Ace.

Way to step up Chase!

[scoot_er]

Ahem, click here (http://houstonbirdshot.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=67:2010-bcs-guidelines&catid=49:birdshot-championship-series&Itemid=139). It's been online since April.
And has also been the worst system around since that time.......with no common sense used when it was put together. BTW way is thew Class system not bonus payout....which is easy enough (5 events).

[ChrisMacG]

And has also been the worst system around since that time.......with no common sense used when it was put together. BTW way is thew Class system not bonus payout....which is easy enough (5 events).

I'm sorry, suggestions for Birdshot go in another thread. ;)

[ERicJ]

It'd be nice if just once in a while scoot_er would tell you how he really felt about something. Keeping all that stuff pent up can't be good for the little guy.

[griff]

And has also been the worst system around since that time.......with no common sense used when it was put together. BTW way is thew Class system not bonus payout....which is easy enough (5 events).my question was about bonus payout, which is by division, specifically will the amount of events played affect payout?and how? the bcs points, which is by class, does seem to favor players in a bigger division. i'm not mad though.

[griff]

and i did read your post billy, thanx.

[Keith H]

i was just informed i might have a very long day at work friday, but the plan is to have the gf pick me up from there and head to ggp.

and i will be throwing over the pond


also, my girlfriend is looking to maybe help out spot, or whatever you guys might need, she is very handy...who should we introduce ourselves too on friday to maybe talk about it?

[scoot_er]

my question was about bonus payout, which is by division, specifically will the amount of events played affect payout?and how? the bcs points, which is by class, does seem to favor players in a bigger division. i'm not mad though.
Yeah the bonus is easy since only two qualified in the Pro division.....Lance and Me which is funny since I am seen as anti-BS. The class system is retarded and I have said that well before this Mr. MacGregor.

[scoot_er]

It'd be nice if just once in a while scoot_er would tell you how he really felt about something. Keeping all that stuff pent up can't be good for the little guy.
I have lost more pent up.....like the lack of Pros coming out to look at the courses ro prepare for the NT.

[Throw Innova]

I've played 6 events. That doesn't qualify me?

[ChrisMacG]

Yeah the bonus is easy since only two qualified in the Pro division.....Lance and Me which is funny since I am seen as anti-BS. The class system is retarded and I have said that well before this Mr. MacGregor.

I know, I was just giving you a hard time. I don't even understand the points sytem to be honest. Chuck does so I'd direct your questions to him about it.

And we don't see you as anti-BS, if by BS you mean Birdshot. You come out and play our events and usually win. We like folks like that.

[ChrisMacG]

who should we introduce ourselves too on Friday to maybe talk about it?

Tiffany Brogdon is TD, however she is also going to be super busy. Try to find Patrick or Chuck at GGP.

[ChaseTheAce]

Sounds like Chase is offering $500 for an Ace.

can i pay in scholarships?

[ThePatrick]

I've played 6 events. That doesn't qualify me?

Which six? I'll go back and check.


So I have you at four. Mcdade, Beaumont, shawshank, and MacGregor.

[Throw Innova]

McDade, Beaumont, Shawshank, Missouri City, MacGregor and this one.

[JimKelly]

Missouri City wasn't part of the series.

[Throw Innova]

"Birdshot presents Last Chance at Throwmance" isn't a Birdshot event?

[JimKelly]

A Birdshot event for sure, but it wasn't part of the series. It was labeled that it was not part of the series. Its in the small print:)

[bmugwump]

Yeah, there was no series fee on the registration forms & we talked about it on the board & that morning at the players meeting...the reason it was not part of the series is because it was thrown together in something like two weeks because neal asked us to do it before the course had to be shut down. That's also why we threw off a CTP for the ace pot that day...sorry, Dixon....that totally sucks!

[bmugwump]

Plus, unfortunately, the finale doesn't count as part of the series...the series was leading up to this!:( Gosh, Dixon...if you had just made one more!:mad:

[Throw Innova]

wow. play five birdshot events this year and not qualify for the birdshot bonus?

that seems right.

[ChrisMacG]

Attention Everyone. This is a reminder that Birdshot has different start-times for tournaments that happen after DST ends. Please note the schedule for Brooks:

7:00 - 8:00 Check in and warm up, late registration if available
8:15 Players Meeting
8:45 - 1st Round Tee Off

Got it everyone?

[ThePatrick]

wow. play five birdshot events this year and not qualify for the birdshot bonus?

that seems right.

The final doesn't count as a qualifier for the final...

[ERicJ]

Attention Everyone. This is a reminder that Birdshot has different start-times for tournaments that happen after DST ends. Please note the schedule for Brooks:

7:00 - 8:00 Check in and warm up, late registration if available
8:15 Players Meeting
8:45 - 1st Round Tee Off

Got it everyone?


Two days notice of this change, is better than none... thanks for the info.

[bmugwump]

Alright, here's the skinny on the online registration....Chris will have Melissa shut it down at 6 PM tomorrow evening before she heads out to the dog track. That way when we all get back home after the party we'll know everyone is in there. Also.....tell your friends who don't read this board about check-in & day-of registration times (7 to 8 AM Saturday morning)...and also don't forget to call me at 832-659-8449 if you're running late or if you have to cancel for some reason. As long as we know before cards are handed out at the players meeting, you will get a full refund if you can't make it IF YOU CALL US!!!!! And keep doing the anti-rain dances if you know any...we could get lucky like we did last year at Spring Valley, where it was raining everywhere else for 100 square miles all around us but not ON us! Either way...rain or shine....this one's going to be a blast! I've got my umbrella & my sexy boots if the rain decides to hang around!:D

[SAUCERSLINGER]

Not much of a tide in the forecast for Saturday so the bayou on Cedar Hills should be low. It hasn't rained here all day. Nothing but sunny skies and a good wind. There's going to be a few soggy spots here and there, but definitely not a washout. That's it for the weather, back to you Bob.....

[griff]

Not much of a tide in the forecast for Saturday so the bayou on Cedar Hills should be low. It hasn't rained here all day. Nothing but sunny skies and a good wind. There's going to be a few soggy spots here and there, but definitely not a washout.
weather report is much appreciated

[bmugwump]

Thanks, Ed....and now, in local news, dozens of men & women holding strange plastic discs in their hands have been seen converging on Jack Brooks Park in Hitchcock, Texas the past few days. These unusual sightings have locals wondering what the hell is going on....stay tuned for an update on this strange story! Coming up next, FBI operatives caught snorting the remains of J. Ed Hoover's ashes at a diner outside of the nation's capitol....exclusive photos right after this!

[TBender]

Because I'm not reading all of that...

Where is HQ on Saturday?

[DPdiscer]

Highland Pavilion. The big one next to the tennis courts. Alcohol is allowed at Jack Brooks Park, but we did not pay for security so there is no drinking around the pavilion area. Do your drinking away from the pavilion area. ;)

[mr.ed]

Chuck/Billy:
What is the schedule for the dog tract festivities tomorrow night. I'm not going to be able to make it Saturday because of a funeral. What time and where are we meeting at the track.

[griff]

I just got off the phone with Gulf Greyhound and the logistical issues have been taken care of. We are on for Friday night and we will be having a CTP over the pond between races. Here is the scoop you need to know to join in the fun:



Friday night at Gulf Greyhound Park - doors open at 6pm, races start at 7pm.
Tell the folks at the ticket counter that you are there for the Birdshot party and your entrance will be FREE. :D
Bring your wives, bring your husbands, bring your kids. This is a family friendly event up in here.
GGP has a good dinner menu (http://gulfgreyhound.com/IndoorOutdoorGroupEventsMenus.aspx?Page=3) so you don't need to eat before you arrive.
There will be a putting demonstration area inside the club house and we'd love it if you would help show folks what disc golf is about.
We will be throwing a CTP over the pond in the center of the track between some of the races. The CTP will be for demonstration only however Birdshot does have a nice ace prize for someone if they hit and ace.
If you want to throw the CTP:

Bring your own disc. Put your name on it if you want it back from the pond (may take a week to get it back to you).
For visibility, bring a bright or light colored disc.
Sign-up with me either at Doubles or at GGP to participate.
CTP distance will be between 300' & 350'
400 to 700 folks will be watching you throw. No pressure. :eek:

No official betting on the CTP will be offered. :p
Any questions?
this might help ,ed

[bmugwump]

Greetings, Birdshooters! Just to let you know, if you are reading these posts please be aware that every once in a while some of the PayPal receipts are not coming through the e-mail to us....so, what that means is if you registered online please go to the pdga website & make sure you are on the roster! If you are not, please call me at 832-659-8449 AND, if possible, e-mail your copy of the receipt to gbmugwump@aol.com. We've had three that we know of & the parties were very quick to notice & got in touch with us...which is what you should do too! Gee, it looks gorgeous outside this morning....I wonder what the disc golf godz have in store for us weather-wise?

[bmugwump]

ATTENTION DOUBLES PLAYERS!!! Once again, if you're reading these posts, please check-in & sign-up for Doubles today at the Highland Pavillion...which is where we will be set up in the morning as well. That's the pavillion that you pass on the way to the Gulf Meadows parking lot...the one next to the tennis courts & volleyball field! Tiff, Patrick & Chris should be there this morning....I'll make my way over there around 12:30, so those of you last minute people who sometimes come by my office take note...I'm leaving at 11:30! Once again....any problems or cancellations please call me at 832-659-8449....gettin' pumped!:D

[Keith H]

Are people bringing their bags into the park friday? or ya just gonna grab them before the demo?
I don't wanna be the only goof with my bag!

[Throw Innova]

Good question, Keith.

Also, if you are planning on helping with the demonstration or participating in the CTP, remember, you are representing DG at that point to the general public. Proper behavior (no drunkenness, please). Proper attire (for the love, please no sleeveless tye-dyed shirts or last weeks dirty jeans).

Let's use this great opportunity well.

[tarazarr]

Good question, Keith.

Proper behavior (no drunkenness, please). Proper attire (for the love, please no sleeveless tye-dyed shirts or last weeks dirty jeans).



Damn....I'm out... Those are my lucky jeans..I've worn my far out, groovy tank top to every tourney since 1979.. It's a nice one bro....well excpet for that one spot, where my dog yakked on it about 8 years ago....but you can hardly see it anymore, since it suffered a little mold damamge form Hurricane Ike.. Yeah dude...me and the "Old Tanker" go way back man....:D

[bmugwump]

Are people bringing their bags into the park friday? or ya just gonna grab them before the demo?
I don't wanna be the only goof with my bag!I'm sure it will be okay to bring your bag in....I would think that's what all of the participants will do & I doubt if "security" at the track will make any kind of deal about it.

[mattman]

how far is it over the pond anywho? Is anyone able to record this, probably be nice to have it on video. Very cool pubicity.

[ChrisMacG]

how far is it over the pond anywho? Is anyone able to record this, probably be nice to have it on video. Very cool pubicity.

We will be taking video and photos of the drives.

I'm guessi we will have a 300 to 325' from the tee to the basket. The basket will be on the finish line of the dog track.

[Keith H]

Sadly I might be wearing my dr pepper uniform :( I have 2 stops left then go home and pack the car to head out. 2 hour drive there. But yea I'm no redneck I won't be setting a bad example :)

[ChrisMacG]

The weather down here is windy, but clear skies. A great day to throw the 833' hole 15 at Cedar Hills.

Sign-up for dubs at the Highland Pavilion by basket #7 on Gulf Meadows.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1358/5169349543_f83fab5aa5_d.jpg

[ChrisMacG]

We've got a guy down here looking for a rec doubles partner. Head on down folks.

[mattman]

We will be taking video and photos of the drives.

I'm guessi we will have a 300 to 325' from the tee to the basket. The basket will be on the finish line of the dog track.

cool, bring me some plastic to toss. I gots like two or three drivers, before playing today, and one putter. It is a horrible feeling having only one putter in the bag.

[tarazarr]

Sadly I might be wearing my dr pepper uniform :(

As long as it's not one of those Tye Dyed Dr. Pepper ones...you'll be ok:D

[DPdiscer]

We had about 30-40 players show up for the Drive across the pond (diagonally) CTP at Gulf Greyhound Park. Thanks to CHris and Melissa for bringing it all together. Not sure who won the shirt yet, will find out tomorrow. Lots of fun hanging out with all the disc golfers at the GGP. Do it again for TxSDGC and this time the pros will have to throw the full length of the pond (hopefully). Dixon, Cory, and Griff were closest that I could tell. Those dogs were pickin em up and puttin em down.

[mattman]

We had about 30-40 players show up for the Drive across the pond (diagonally) CTP at Gulf Greyhound Park. Thanks to CHris and Melissa for bringing it all together. Not sure who won the shirt yet, will find out tomorrow. Lots of fun hanging out with all the disc golfers at the GGP. Do it again for TxSDGC and this time the pros will have to throw the full length of the pond (hopefully). Dixon, Cory, and Griff were closest that I could tell. Those dogs were pickin em up and puttin em down.

Was awesome!

[ThePatrick]

Was awesome!

Results are up.

[bmugwump]

Congratulations to Dixon Jowers for winning the open division & shooting a 1038 rated round on Cedar Hills even though conditions were about as horrible as you can get on a disc golf course! We had 101 players come out for a day of rain, mud & disc golf for the finale to the 2010 Birdshot Championship Series yesterday...if you were there, kudos to you for showing up & braving the elements! It was tough for everyone trying to keep their hands & discs dry during our first tournament in three years with any significant rain...sorry folks, the Birdshot luck didn't shine through weatherwise yesterday! Most everyone I talked to in the afternoon after the rounds were over had a good time, though...and the sun did finally come out later in the afternoon. Thanks to all of our sponsors for making this event a big one....and thanks to all of the players who have made this year our biggest yet! It's really a drag about the rain...the course was in really great shape the week leading up to the tourney...even Friday! Oh well...as you could see, we're going to have a lot of work to do for Texas States in April....anyone know a mulch company willing to donate about a ton of the stuff for all of the fairways? If so, let us know ASAP!!!

[ERicJ]

Great job by the Birdshot staff running everything smoothly yesterday. Thanks folks! :D

On a separate note one thing is glaringly clear: there's no way those courses should host an A-Tier, much less an NT event without the teebox issue being addressed. Yesterday was a disaster from that perspective.

[Keith H]

I liked the ice skating on cedar hills. Made me just stand and deliver my leapord down the pipe. Pretty good results. If I can. They should be able too.

[ChaseTheAce]

Good job to all of the Birdshot staff for handling the poor weather and allowing for what could have been a disaster to work out really well. All of the CTP/Distance competitions were fun to play as well as watch. Everyone seemed to be in good spirits despite having to play slip n' slide all day.

I must agree with Eric. Both courses are far from hosting such a large event in the near future :eek: Imagine if this kind of weather happened at States.

Personally, I really like the Cedar Hills course, even in its current state, and I believe that it has a lot of potential to be one of the better courses in the Houston area. After more clearing, trimming, foot traffic, and of course, concrete teeboxes, it will be looking like the championship course that it has the potential to be.

[Keith H]

No doubt chase. I can't wait for my next outing. I will improve.

I have to give it up to andi and jake for the courses. When I described cedar hills to people, I used terramont and spring valley mashed into 1 with some mcdade sprinkled in. I said wow on soooooo many holes standing at the teebox. Favorite holes are definatly hole 1 and 2. And I think it was 7? The long left sweeping hole with the fire pit. The quality of the course helped me forget it was poobutter weather out and just had fun!

The girlfriend even had fun chasing everyones drives and spotting. Just about everyone thanked her for watching and not playing. That takes a special person. I couldn't do it


Thanks everyone. Till the next one!

[scoot_er]

Course would be much better with 4 or so trees taken out in key areas.

[SAUCERSLINGER]

The players pack Buzz is pretty sweet, definitely one for the collection. That CTP for the CTP was an awesome finish to the day. The delayed surge of discs that came crashing into the basket after the end of 30 seconds was pretty climactic. I hope that got on video.

[SpringDGLover]

I liked the ice skating on cedar hills. Made me just stand and deliver my leapord down the pipe. Pretty good results. If I can. They should be able too.

It's really not about what they should be able to do and kudos for playing so well. The reality is if those same conditions occur during States the stigma that Houston has subpar courses will just get bigger. Hosting an NT is not like a typical tournament and it is absolutely necessary that all measures be taken to make it the best possible experience for all players participating. This area is hosting two very high profile tourney's this year and it is our responsibility to ensure that they are held to an extremely high standard.

[bmugwump]

It's obvious that the boxes were the main issue on both courses...and I guarantee you that HFDS & the Texas States Group are already buzzing about plans to address the problem. It's one thing dealing with mud & bad boxes as a casual player (or even league)...but hosting this NT event this spring without addressing the boxes would be shooting ourselves in the foot, which a couple of people may assume that we already have done so! I say look at Windwood as a perfect example of pulling resources & people together to make a course happen...and we've already got the courses (or mostly anyway)...now we just need the boxes! I have no doubt that we can & will make this happen...but it will largely depend on volunteers on how quickly & how much more easily it will happen. Boo can't do it all by himself, you know! Although I'm sure he would try!! So please watch the Brooks thread for info on workdays & how you can help to get this course ready for a National event!

[tarazarr]

...but hosting this NT event this spring without addressing the boxes would be shooting ourselves in the foot, which a couple of people may assume that we already have done so! I say look at Windwood as a perfect example of pulling resources & people together to make a course happen...!

Billy....Windwood would like to help... I'm going to post over on the Texas states thread what we are thinking...

[Jake Walsdorf]

Congratulations to Dixon Jowers for winning the open division & shooting a 1038 rated round on Cedar Hills even though conditions were about as horrible as you can get on a disc golf course! We had 101 players come out for a day of rain, mud & disc golf for the finale to the 2010 Birdshot Championship Series yesterday...if you were there, kudos to you for showing up & braving the elements! It was tough for everyone trying to keep their hands & discs dry during our first tournament in three years with any significant rain...sorry folks, the Birdshot luck didn't shine through weatherwise yesterday! Most everyone I talked to in the afternoon after the rounds were over had a good time, though...and the sun did finally come out later in the afternoon. Thanks to all of our sponsors for making this event a big one....and thanks to all of the players who have made this year our biggest yet! It's really a drag about the rain...the course was in really great shape the week leading up to the tourney...even Friday! Oh well...as you could see, we're going to have a lot of work to do for Texas States in April....anyone know a mulch company willing to donate about a ton of the stuff for all of the fairways? If so, let us know ASAP!!!

a 1038 rated round shooting a 59!!! That's some course! That's some crazy shooting on Poobutter as Keith called it.

[Jake Walsdorf]

Billy....Windwood would like to help... I'm going to post over on the Texas states thread what we are thinking...

An Brooks appreciates all the help...

[Jake Walsdorf]

Course would be much better with 4 or so trees taken out in key areas.

All those holes and 4 trees is all that stands in the way of having the Hall seal of approval? Which hole? Which trees?

I want everyone to understand we will still make some minor teaks to the Hills course so PM me if you can describe suggested improvements. As far as the Meadows course, major changes could happen. We're still figuring how to incorporate the third course into the mix and how and where the (2) 24 hole courses will fit in. We have several possibilities. No worries there. One thing is for sure; a surfaced tee box will be priority #1.


As your 2011 TXSDGC TD, what I need from the disc golfing community is the following:
1) Support: If a direction is taken by leadership, don't second guess it. Help make it better. As your TD, I will accept all forms of criticism, just keep it relevant, be specific and provide a possible solution with the problem.
2) Understanding: Like faces, everyone has a different opinion about what makes a good event and a good golfing hole. We can make this event as good as you want it to be. I am NOT going to make a bunch of shallow promises, and I would expect the same from all of you folks. Understand we need everyone’s help to make this park a 2011 National hot spot. With everyone staying focused, it will be something memorable and great.
3) Commitment: Be like Boo! That's how I describe it. If you have an idea, and it is brought forward supported and approved, make it happen. Stay focused and each of you can and will make huge contributions to the effort. Not everyone has to have great ideas. You can commit to helping with already established ideas (tee boxes).
4) Volunteerism: Be a part of the solution fixing the problems, not just the voice stating the obvious. From trimming a shrub around one tree, to agreeing to complete all of the art work; to mapping the courses, to developing tee boxes and signs. The states group needs your help. Everyone!!! Remember, this is a key year for states, and only with your help will it be great.

It has been said that if a large group can maintain focused on a commonly understood goal throughout a process, results will meet expectations.

That will be my charge. I will keep you updated with what is happening and will not have folks doubling efforts because of a lack of planning.

I look forward to facilitating a focused work force providing a superior event on awesome courses volunteered by some of the coolest people in the South.

Now, let's build a memory!

[boooyaaaa]

Yes, Jakes' courses(and Andis'???) still need some work, the few who put in the time and money (and blood and ivy rashes) just couldn't avoid the natural disaster known as Double Barrel....did it rain, it seemed kinda wet...and yet Dixon, Hague and a few others seemed to tame the course. I'm glad to hear that we have several people interested in making Jakes' courses ready for a NT event your backs and shovels will be needed. Be ready for the two minute warning....Is the crowd Booing or just yelling Boo

[ChrisMacG]

Just an FYI to everyone, I've posted the video of us throwing over the pond at Gulf Greyhound Park on the Birdshot website here (http://houstonbirdshot.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=134:ctp-at-gulf-greyhound-park&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=137). The first group went a little fast and the camera man had trouble keeping up. By the second and third groups we'd worked that issue out.

Thanks to everyone who came out and threw or came out to support us! It was a blast and we'll do it again at States!

[Suemac]

Results are up.

That little A tier in SA this weekend, their Sunday rounds and final scores are NO WHERE on PDGA. Just thought ya'll appreciate our local guys..:D

[ChingLizard]

Just an FYI to everyone, I've posted the video of us throwing over the pond at Gulf Greyhound Park on the Birdshot website here (http://houstonbirdshot.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=134:ctp-at-gulf-greyhound-park&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=137). The first group went a little fast and the camera man had trouble keeping up. By the second and third groups we'd worked that issue out.

Thanks to everyone who came out and threw or came out to support us! It was a blast and we'll do it again at States!

Very cool video to watch Chris and everyone! Man! There is something especially cool about watching a disc fly on video!

[Keith H]

even more so when your the one throwing it!